From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Sv: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:08:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <0E591E8B-FD55-4829-8421-6F2C02AFD20C@mit.edu> <83eejenvy2.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1ne40e7.fsf@logand.com> <87wnx6x7vc.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27407"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Tomas Hlavaty , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: arthur miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 25 22:10:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ksuLz-00074O-OT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 22:10:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksuLy-0003XG-OF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksuKP-0002pn-2j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:08:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:48017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ksuKM-0004aQ-Bx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A7FE31005B0; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:08:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 305BB100544; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:08:43 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1608930523; bh=0C43XXnbiFD7Cv7CQBbeRYWkDIAgHsYaJ2WG23hkahA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=IA1/c6BJPKF1do8rKXtrlebiQoXa2EB5D8qpTvBHDqOE69kApFvCDOqIJpx0TKQPf H4sCLm1ruCnkFjw5GHXlodj/9Kh0G8kM2BinDTUUfjD3E2o+8A62GjI5lgCus8pDu4 6EqWtNuldd1rmq7593pcwJrEmfnh1oshPKbidWfUcIycPdNbMwNejWhaJcnV20iiy6 HROj8ZkhWNKOmVnpEeFP8wYv9fobVu5+sC89Cf1W8ruAAqkuKw/Uq1vvNp7Lq0uO1v /oQfxrem6DW/HELh12J6Gm4UVUtKl7gDhYCN1ev8Wjkid7cefi95ValFUuCOtOWVhI VAEQhokNfVwKQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.243.191]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EAD40120515; Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:08:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (arthur miller's message of "Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:41:31 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261775 Archived-At: > LibreOffice does quite good job of translating docx stuff you wrote about. Last I checked, LibreOffice still wasn't able to edit a "docx" file without losing significant formatting information in real-life cases. And I don't mean it as a criticism of LibreOffice. The "docx" format is not nearly as "documented" as you think it is. As for the original problem: I'm pretty sure it'd be hard enough to solve the problem for ODT documents, so I'd focus on that first (and leave the compatibility with formats that are actively designed to be hard to support (like docx) to other tools). Stefan