From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Context menus and mouse-3 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:08:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200914061111.3trmuzhdvv7nwdcc@Ergus> <87y2acv2tw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sg0jt7bo.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871r8123jg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6mojwu9.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83im1c6qns.fsf@gnu.org> <87tukvdxvt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83k0lq69a2.fsf@gnu.org> <871r7yoznr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tukt4gwg.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14084"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Juri Linkov , "Philip K." , Richard Stallman , Ergus , Emacs developers , Arthur Miller , Dmitry Gutov , Gregory Heytings , Drew Adams To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 19 20:09:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Xi2-0003Qo-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 20:09:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50180 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5Xi1-0006vY-6C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:09:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55124) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5XhE-0005xH-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:49083) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5XhB-0006KM-8t; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:08:50 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B887D440AF9; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3A6EC440AE5; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:08:44 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1626718124; bh=/XTeRgFZfOi1/YlYOpWF7igki1YylUsi/tjocifoRM4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=fUlv5gcpAcrC1phUuiOhynAV6NOm+ytEbyrBD0CzO37+coD5N6F33x3d1oyulmKsZ eM7RaSYSB7p5rkRHnPSBVUW9LNGeOuegXJ8jzpMTcZ9LkIySTrdewehKE3fXMsPtoi 2Z2xVFVCDA8GwUcPYBfkf1VdaOs1RRigYlhgloIOGTwYtvsKolTd8723iJeyKTQO5r Zh9/5YAHWbpRRu5xkhyZf7Mt6Ul5HPSmiTM6ox5OGI8FgWD6OJ/QLgqkio+AdXFraV rarK3yuK9b76M6f+UMt9GeIqgT3VcLx5oXWrgl6juKAb+OoHCHV9tc1SEhfl3L8LDi E7HCRHkC4UB4A== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.29.138]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF1B4120695; Mon, 19 Jul 2021 14:08:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 19 Jul 2021 19:48:21 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271365 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas [2021-07-19 19:48:21] wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> IMO, it's not a good idea to use "modern" in variable names. >> Something like mouse-friendly-mode or alt-mouse-mode, maybe? > Sure, any of those would work. To me none of them are any good, because the only useful word there is `mouse` and it's still pretty vague. AFAIK the first and most important element is to introduce the concept of a "context menu" (via `content-menu-function` or something like that) which modes can use to add there own entries. Then as a second step comes the choice of how to give access to this menu, and I wouldn't call that a "mode" because I can't see any reason why it should be a binary choice. This menu should be available by default, the only user-config question is which key-binding(s) to use for it (some of the choices being to override `down-mouse-3` (and hence `mouse-3`), or to use `down-mouse-3` with a delay, ...). Stefan