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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 67141@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67141: 30.0.50; Missing element in the backtrace
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 16:29:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvsf54gjn5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yp1h6lk5co3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Andrea Corallo's message of "Fri, 17 Nov 2023 15:48:28 -0500")

>> It impacts debugging and profiling, in my experience.
> I see, the outcome for me is that we should offer a way for the user to
> force the use of funcall.  Unfortunatelly ATM if one writes like
> (funcall 'eval ...) it gets optimized.  Maybe even a funcall wrapper
> written in Elisp would be sufficient?

FWIW, for the specific example in the bug report, I'd argue that we
should never call `Feval` directly because a call to `eval`
is a pretty strong hint that speed is probably not a priority.
Similarly I'd expect that most calls to `mapcar` won't benefit very much
from a direct call because the cost of preparing the call
(constructing a closure to pass to `mapcar`) and running the loop is
probably high enough to dwarf the function call itself.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-17 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-12 22:29 bug#67141: 30.0.50; Missing element in the backtrace Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-13 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-13 16:27   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-16  9:35     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-17 19:01       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-17 20:48         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-17 21:29           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-11-20  8:55             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-20 12:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 13:41                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-20 15:13                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-20 17:52                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-20 18:16                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-20 18:47                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-20 21:01 ` Mattias Engdegård

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