From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:36:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odejy30k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860710311830s4fa203e3y53fbd6f51496f007@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711010824w6888aafdgb0a0e5d48f6fdebb@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194039443 565 80.91.229.12 (2 Nov 2007 21:37:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 21:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, Daiki Ueno , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 02 22:37:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Io4Cc-0001mP-1C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:37:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Io4CR-0007a6-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:37:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Io4CM-0007Wi-Qb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Io4CL-0007Uq-Tw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Io4CL-0007UY-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Io4CD-0002bn-Qd; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776AC2CF199; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EAA3FE0; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EFAA86CA9D; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:36:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:12:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82376 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65537 Archived-At: > On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:08:26 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: RS> We have already decided we want to install epg. If encrypt.el RS> basically duplicates epg, let's not install encrypt.el in Emacs, RS> or in Gnus. > My arguments are in a separate message, but essentially the difference > is between providing a GnuPG interface (epg) and providing an > architecture with user-supplied ciphers that does not depend on GnuPG or > any other external tools (encrypt.el). I think at least Gnus, and IMHO > Emacs too, benefit from a self-contained, non-invasive, simple library > like encrypt.el. I think there's enough space in the Emacs world for both to coexist. Stefan