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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: Stephen.Berman@gmx.net, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: invisible
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:11:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr6i7une3.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47508A34.2000109@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:09:56 +0100")

> I don't know.  `line-move-ignore-invisible' is a user option (although I
> fail to see how it's useful).  `(global-)disable-point-adjustment' is not.

global-disable-point-adjustment *is* a user option.

> IIUC a user might want to set `line-move-ignore-invisible' to nil
> in order to have C-n/C-p stop at or near invisible newlines.  In order
> to make this possible I set `disable-point-adjustment' to t.  I do this
> because for this particular goal the adjustment step is too clever.  But
> I don't see how replacing the one by the negation of the other would
> solve the problem.

I must be missing something: the relationship is pretty obvious to me
since your code sets disable-point-adjustment to t (i.e. forces Emacs to
behave as if global-disable-point-adjustment were t for this one
command) if and only if line-move-ignore-invisible is nil.

>>> ! 	      (unless line-move-ignore-invisible
>>> ! 		;; Interactively, disable point-adjustment when
>>> ! 		;; `line-move-ignore-invisible' is nil.
>>> ! 		(setq disable-point-adjustment t))
>> 
>> Why not put this directly inside `line-move' so it's not duplicated?

> Because I wanted to emphasize that this is for interactive use only
> and `interactive-p' is tested in next-/previous-line.  If for whatever
> reason people want to use next-/previous-line in a function, they
> should be allowed to disable point-adjustment as they like.  But I do
> not have a strong opinion about this, let's see whether my patch DTRT
> at all.  As Richard mentioned earlier adjusting one thing here breaks
> another ...

Since those functions are discouraged in Elisp code anyway I don't think
it matters much.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-01  3:11 UTC|newest]

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2007-11-09 21:59       ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-18  0:35         ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-18 15:27           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 12:24             ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-23 14:25               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 18:19                 ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-23 19:59                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 20:31                     ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-23 21:52                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 23:04                         ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-24  9:33                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-24 10:11                             ` invisible Johan Bockgård
2007-11-24 10:30                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-24 10:34                                 ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-24 19:50                             ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-24 22:26                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26  3:25                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26  8:02                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26 15:17                                     ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26 19:10                                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26 20:19                                         ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26  3:20                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26  7:59                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26 15:29                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-26 19:09                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-26 20:16                                     ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-27 13:11                                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-27 18:46                                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-27 22:44                                         ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-28  9:16                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-28 19:20                                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-28 22:41                                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-28 23:23                                         ` invisible Stephen Berman
2007-11-29 10:15                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-29 16:13                                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-29  1:04                                         ` invisible Richard Stallman
2007-11-29 10:26                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-29 15:57                                             ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-29 16:36                                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-29 18:53                                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-29 19:55                                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-30 17:19                                               ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-30 18:59                                                 ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-11-30 22:09                                                   ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-12-01  3:11                                                     ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2007-12-01  9:44                                                       ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-12-01 20:41                                                         ` invisible Stefan Monnier
2007-12-02  1:15                                                           ` invisible Johan Bockgård
2007-12-02  9:47                                                           ` invisible martin rudalics
2007-11-23 14:37               ` invisible martin rudalics

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