TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Yoni Rabkin]

Hello,

The TODO file says: "Check for any included packages that define
obsolete bug-reporting commands.  Change them to use report-emacs-bug."

After taking a preliminary look at the emacs source, I have the
following questions:

What is the difference between reporter.el and emacsbug.el (the
emacs-devel archives seem to be silent on reporter.el)? The following
files use reporter.el:

calc-misc.el
dired-x.el
hilit19.el
viper-cmd.el
tramp-cmds.el
ps-mode.el
vera-mode.el
octave-mod.el
vhdl-mode.el
cc-mode.el

...and maybe a few more I couldn't find at first grep.

The following use emacsbug.el:

eshell.el
supercite.el
edebug.el
ffap.el

...once again, there may be more.

Some of the those use `define-obsolete-function-alias' to point at
report-emacs-bug for emacs version "23.1", and some use`defalias'
instead. Also, some autoload the alias, and some don't.

To recapitulate the questions:

1. Should Emacs packages which use reporter.el be converted to using
   emacsbug.el and reporter.el retired?

2. Should report-emacs-bug be called using
   `define-obsolete-function-alias' or `defalias'?

3. Should (2) be autoload-ed?

-- 
   "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Glenn Morris]

Yoni Rabkin wrote:

> The TODO file says: "Check for any included packages that define
> obsolete bug-reporting commands.  Change them to use report-emacs-bug."

I think I added that. All I had in mind was, some packages (eg
supercite.el) still directed bug reports to somewhere else, even
though they had not been developed outside of Emacs for a long time.

It's good to find those and update them to send bug reports to the
normal Emacs address.

On the other hand, some packages (eg calc) have active maintainers,
and if they want to receive bug reports somewhere else, that's their
prerogative. So it can't be a blanket replace, it needs checking with
the package maintainers.

Or perhaps this policy will change if and when a bug database comes
into use. So the short answer is that it's probably best to wait and
see what happens with the current debbugs experiment before doing much
about this.

> What is the difference between reporter.el and emacsbug.el (the
> emacs-devel archives seem to be silent on reporter.el)?

AFAIK, one is a general bug-reporting mechanism, the other is
specifically for Emacs.

> 1. Should Emacs packages which use reporter.el be converted to using
>    emacsbug.el and reporter.el retired?

No to the last part. Perhaps to the first part. If the bug reports are
going to the standard emacs list, it's good to use emacsbug, since it
has more bells and whistles. However reporter allows for optional
specification of a variable list, which some packages use. Perhaps an
optional argument could be added to report-emacs-bug to insert a list
of variables and their values.

> 2. Should report-emacs-bug be called using
>    `define-obsolete-function-alias' or `defalias'?

I would say d-o-f-a, so that things can one day be further simplified.
Eg sc-submit-bug-report can just go away one day.

> 3. Should (2) be autoload-ed?

I think in general it's reasonable to expect people to load a package
before trying to report a bug in it, so no.

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Stefan Monnier]

>> The TODO file says: "Check for any included packages that define
>> obsolete bug-reporting commands.  Change them to use report-emacs-bug."

> I think I added that. All I had in mind was, some packages (eg
> supercite.el) still directed bug reports to somewhere else, even
> though they had not been developed outside of Emacs for a long time.

> It's good to find those and update them to send bug reports to the
> normal Emacs address.

Yes, that's desirable.

> Or perhaps this policy will change if and when a bug database comes
> into use. So the short answer is that it's probably best to wait and
> see what happens with the current debbugs experiment before doing much
> about this.

Indeed, we may want to revisit this in the future, but in any case, it's
useful to redirect report to the normal Emacs address if the claimed
maintainer is not the maintainer any more: for those problems, we don't
have any reason to wait.


        Stefan

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Yoni Rabkin]

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> The TODO file says: "Check for any included packages that define
>>> obsolete bug-reporting commands.  Change them to use report-emacs-bug."
>
>> I think I added that. All I had in mind was, some packages (eg
>> supercite.el) still directed bug reports to somewhere else, even
>> though they had not been developed outside of Emacs for a long time.
>
>> It's good to find those and update them to send bug reports to the
>> normal Emacs address.
>
> Yes, that's desirable.
>
>> Or perhaps this policy will change if and when a bug database comes
>> into use. So the short answer is that it's probably best to wait and
>> see what happens with the current debbugs experiment before doing much
>> about this.
>
> Indeed, we may want to revisit this in the future, but in any case, it's
> useful to redirect report to the normal Emacs address if the claimed
> maintainer is not the maintainer any more: for those problems, we don't
> have any reason to wait.

I can email the maintainers of those packages and ask them where they
would rather have bug reports sent.

It may be the case that some do not reply, in which case I can resend my
email a week later. After two weeks of no answer I can change those to
the emacsbug address.

-- 
   "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Xavier Maillard]

   I can email the maintainers of those packages and ask them where they
   would rather have bug reports sent.

Why not extend the bug reporting system with support for a Cc:
field ?

	Xavier
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Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Yoni Rabkin]

Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:

>    I can email the maintainers of those packages and ask them where they
>    would rather have bug reports sent.
>
> Why not extend the bug reporting system with support for a Cc:
> field ?

My question is more about giving those individuals the option to decide
where future bug reports go, and "cleaning-up" defunct addresses (if
any).

I would also think that such "Cc:" functionality should be a part of the
centralized bug managing system, and not the bug reporting mechanism in
GNU/Emacs.

I thought that the general direction being taken now is to let the bug
management system send out any appropriate additional copies of the
report like:

bug report --> bug management system --> specific maintainer (if any)

-- 
   "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Stefan Monnier]

>    I can email the maintainers of those packages and ask them where they
>    would rather have bug reports sent.

> Why not extend the bug reporting system with support for a Cc:
> field ?

We can create debbugs-packages for each externally managed Emacs
package, and then tell debbugs who the maintainer is.  The it's a simple
matter of adding the right "Package:" pseudo-header to bug-report or to
re-assign them after the fact.


        Stefan

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Stefan Monnier]

>> I can email the maintainers of those packages and ask them where they
>> would rather have bug reports sent.
>> 
>> Why not extend the bug reporting system with support for a Cc:
>> field ?

> My question is more about giving those individuals the option to decide
> where future bug reports go, and "cleaning-up" defunct addresses (if
> any).

> I would also think that such "Cc:" functionality should be a part of the
> centralized bug managing system, and not the bug reporting mechanism in
> GNU/Emacs.

> I thought that the general direction being taken now is to let the bug
> management system send out any appropriate additional copies of the
> report like:

> bug report --> bug management system --> specific maintainer (if any)

Exactly,


        Stefan

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Yoni Rabkin]

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

[snip]

> Indeed, we may want to revisit this in the future, but in any case, it's
> useful to redirect report to the normal Emacs address if the claimed
> maintainer is not the maintainer any more: for those problems, we don't
> have any reason to wait.

Should I send out emails to the package maintainers in question and ask
them? I'm asking because I wound not send such email on behalf of the
Emacs developers without the explicit permission of this list.

Based on the answers (or lack thereof), I could then prepare a patch-set
which changes the appropriate addresses in their corresponding packages.

-- 
   "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Indeed, we may want to revisit this in the future, but in any case, it's
>> useful to redirect report to the normal Emacs address if the claimed
>> maintainer is not the maintainer any more: for those problems, we don't
>> have any reason to wait.

> Should I send out emails to the package maintainers in question and ask
> them? I'm asking because I wound not send such email on behalf of the
> Emacs developers without the explicit permission of this list.

Yes, please do.

> Based on the answers (or lack thereof), I could then prepare a patch-set
> which changes the appropriate addresses in their corresponding packages.

That would be great,

For those who don't respond, you may want to add a note about "didn't
respond when contacted <DATE>" at the beginning of the file, next to the
maintainer's name.


        Stefan

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Yoni Rabkin]

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>> Indeed, we may want to revisit this in the future, but in any case, it's
>>> useful to redirect report to the normal Emacs address if the claimed
>>> maintainer is not the maintainer any more: for those problems, we don't
>>> have any reason to wait.
>
>> Should I send out emails to the package maintainers in question and ask
>> them? I'm asking because I wound not send such email on behalf of the
>> Emacs developers without the explicit permission of this list.
>
> Yes, please do.
>
>> Based on the answers (or lack thereof), I could then prepare a patch-set
>> which changes the appropriate addresses in their corresponding packages.
>
> That would be great,
>
> For those who don't respond, you may want to add a note about "didn't
> respond when contacted <DATE>" at the beginning of the file, next to the
> maintainer's name.

Sorry for the delay in getting back on this, but I emailed everyone at
least twice, and allowed ample response time.

At the bottom this mail are two small patches for email addresses which
are outright broken, or simply don't exist anymore.

I emailed Jay Belanger twice (on 17/3/2008 and 31/3/2008) and got no
answer, I know that he is active on this list. So Jay, please drop me a
line if you read this.

The maintainers of the following files would be happy to receive bug
reports via the bug tracking system, once it's up and running:

artist.el 
calc-misc.el
viper*.el
ediff*.el
vhdl-mode.el
vera-mode.el 
verilog-mode.el

The maintainer of ps-mode.el said:

"Yes, sure. But only if those e-mails have a link to the bug report
system, where I can cancel these e-mails if I want to."

The maintainer of cmacexp.el said:

"I do not use cmacexp.el any more, but yes, I would like to receive bug
reports.  However, I would prefer not to be the only responsible person
for those bugs."

\f

2008-04-12  Yoni Rabkin  <yoni@rabkins.net>
     
     * hilit19.el: Abandoned file, changed the maintainer to
       bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
     
     * simple.el: Abandoned file, changed the maintainer to
       bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org


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Index: hilit19.el
===================================================================
RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el,v
retrieving revision 1.19
diff -u -r1.19 hilit19.el
--- hilit19.el	11 Apr 2008 07:44:47 -0000	1.19
+++ hilit19.el	12 Apr 2008 16:39:25 -0000
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 ;; Copyright (C) 1993, 1994, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004,
 ;;   2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 
-;; Author:   Jonathan Stigelman <stig@hackvan.com>
+;; Author:   Jonathan Stigelman <stig@hackvan.com> (broken email address. checked April 2008)
 ;; Maintainer: FSF
 ;;	(actually no longer maintained)
 ;; Keywords: faces
@@ -411,7 +411,7 @@
   (require 'reporter)
   (and (y-or-n-p "Do you really want to submit a report on hilit19? ")
        (reporter-submit-bug-report
-	"Jonathan Stigelman <hilit@hackvan.com>"
+	"bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"
 	"hilit19.el (Release 2.19)"
 	(and (y-or-n-p "Do you need to include a dump hilit variables? ")
 	     (append

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Index: simula.el
===================================================================
RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/progmodes/simula.el,v
retrieving revision 1.42
diff -u -r1.42 simula.el
--- simula.el	10 Apr 2008 14:10:40 -0000	1.42
+++ simula.el	12 Apr 2008 15:47:42 -0000
@@ -3,8 +3,8 @@
 ;; Copyright (C) 1992, 1994, 1996, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
 ;; Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 
-;; Author: Hans Henrik Eriksen <hhe@ifi.uio.no>
-;; Maintainer: simula-mode@ifi.uio.no
+;; Author: Hans Henrik Eriksen <hhe@ifi.uio.no> (invalid email address, checked April 2008)
+;; Maintainer: simula-mode@ifi.uio.no (invalid email address, checked April 2008)
 ;; Adapted-By: ESR
 ;; Keywords: languages
 
@@ -1630,7 +1630,7 @@
 \f
 ;; defuns for submitting bug reports
 
-(defconst simula-mode-help-address "simula-mode@ifi.uio.no"
+(defconst simula-mode-help-address "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"
   "Address accepting submission of `simula-mode' bug reports.")
 
 (defun simula-submit-bug-report ()

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-- 
   "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Stefan Monnier]

> Sorry for the delay in getting back on this, but I emailed everyone at
> least twice, and allowed ample response time.

Thank you.

> At the bottom this mail are two small patches for email addresses which
> are outright broken, or simply don't exist anymore.

Could you send a patch that adds all the information you collected,
directly in the files?


        Stefan

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Yoni Rabkin]

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Sorry for the delay in getting back on this, but I emailed everyone at
>> least twice, and allowed ample response time.
>
> Thank you.
>
>> At the bottom this mail are two small patches for email addresses which
>> are outright broken, or simply don't exist anymore.
>
> Could you send a patch that adds all the information you collected,
> directly in the files?

Is this what you had in mind?


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diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/CVS/Entries emacs/lisp/CVS/Entries
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/CVS/Entries	2008-04-15 12:45:02.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/CVS/Entries	2008-04-15 19:40:26.000000000 +0300
@@ -308,4 +308,24 @@
 /x-dnd.el/1.30/Thu Apr 10 14:09:45 2008//
 /xml.el/1.61/Fri Feb  1 16:01:08 2008//
 /xt-mouse.el/1.54/Sat Mar 29 02:15:56 2008//
-D
+D/calc////
+D/calendar////
+D/emacs-lisp////
+D/emulation////
+D/erc////
+D/eshell////
+D/gnus////
+D/international////
+D/language////
+D/mail////
+D/mh-e////
+D/net////
+D/nxml////
+D/obsolete////
+D/org////
+D/play////
+D/progmodes////
+D/term////
+D/textmodes////
+D/toolbar////
+D/url////
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/CVS/Entries.Log emacs/lisp/CVS/Entries.Log
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/CVS/Entries.Log	2008-04-15 12:45:20.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/CVS/Entries.Log	1970-01-01 02:00:00.000000000 +0200
@@ -1,21 +0,0 @@
-A D/calc////
-A D/calendar////
-A D/emacs-lisp////
-A D/emulation////
-A D/erc////
-A D/eshell////
-A D/gnus////
-A D/international////
-A D/language////
-A D/mail////
-A D/mh-e////
-A D/net////
-A D/nxml////
-A D/obsolete////
-A D/org////
-A D/play////
-A D/progmodes////
-A D/term////
-A D/textmodes////
-A D/toolbar////
-A D/url////
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/ediff.el emacs/lisp/ediff.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/ediff.el	2008-04-10 17:09:36.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/ediff.el	2008-04-15 19:38:03.000000000 +0300
@@ -105,6 +105,13 @@
 ;; its many users.  See Ediff on-line Info for the full list of those who
 ;; helped.  Improved defaults in Ediff file-name reading commands.
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 20/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;;; Code:
 
 (provide 'ediff)
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/emulation/viper.el emacs/lisp/emulation/viper.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/emulation/viper.el	2008-04-06 22:26:00.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/emulation/viper.el	2008-04-15 19:40:05.000000000 +0300
@@ -295,6 +295,13 @@
 ;;    much easier.
 ;;
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 20/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;;; Code:
 
 ;; compiler pacifier
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries emacs/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries	2008-04-15 12:45:13.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries	2008-04-15 19:40:27.000000000 +0300
@@ -1 +1 @@
-D
+D/unicode////
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries.Log emacs/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries.Log
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries.Log	2008-04-15 12:45:13.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/nxml/char-name/CVS/Entries.Log	1970-01-01 02:00:00.000000000 +0200
@@ -1 +0,0 @@
-A D/unicode////
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries emacs/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries	2008-04-15 12:45:13.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries	2008-04-15 19:40:27.000000000 +0300
@@ -24,4 +24,4 @@
 /rng-xsd.el/1.4/Wed Jan  9 04:26:49 2008//
 /xmltok.el/1.4/Wed Jan  9 04:26:49 2008//
 /xsd-regexp.el/1.4/Wed Jan  9 04:26:49 2008//
-D
+D/char-name////
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries.Log emacs/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries.Log
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries.Log	2008-04-15 12:45:13.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/nxml/CVS/Entries.Log	1970-01-01 02:00:00.000000000 +0200
@@ -1 +0,0 @@
-A D/char-name////
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el emacs/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el	2008-04-11 10:44:47.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el	2008-04-15 19:38:24.000000000 +0300
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 ;; Copyright (C) 1993, 1994, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004,
 ;;   2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 
-;; Author:   Jonathan Stigelman <stig@hackvan.com>
+;; Author:   Jonathan Stigelman <stig@hackvan.com> (broken email address. checked April 2008)
 ;; Maintainer: FSF
 ;;	(actually no longer maintained)
 ;; Keywords: faces
@@ -411,7 +411,7 @@ your init file.")
   (require 'reporter)
   (and (y-or-n-p "Do you really want to submit a report on hilit19? ")
        (reporter-submit-bug-report
-	"Jonathan Stigelman <hilit@hackvan.com>"
+	"bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"
 	"hilit19.el (Release 2.19)"
 	(and (y-or-n-p "Do you need to include a dump hilit variables? ")
 	     (append
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/cmacexp.el emacs/lisp/progmodes/cmacexp.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/cmacexp.el	2008-04-10 17:10:37.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/progmodes/cmacexp.el	2008-04-15 19:37:39.000000000 +0300
@@ -87,6 +87,16 @@
 ;; If the start point of the region is inside a macro definition the
 ;; macro expansion is often inaccurate.
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is filed in the
+;; Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy of the bug
+;; report be sent to the maintainer's email address. However, the
+;; maintainer prefers not to be the only person maintaining this file
+;; in future.
+
+
 ;;; Code:
 
 (require 'cc-mode)
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/ps-mode.el emacs/lisp/progmodes/ps-mode.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/ps-mode.el	2008-04-10 17:10:40.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/progmodes/ps-mode.el	2008-04-15 19:38:47.000000000 +0300
@@ -28,6 +28,15 @@
 
 ;;; Commentary:
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 18/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address, but
+;; only if: "... those e-mails have a link to the bug report system,
+;; where I can cancel these e-mails if I want to.".
+
 \f
 ;;; Code:
 
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/simula.el emacs/lisp/progmodes/simula.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/simula.el	2008-04-10 17:10:40.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/progmodes/simula.el	2008-04-15 19:38:58.000000000 +0300
@@ -3,8 +3,8 @@
 ;; Copyright (C) 1992, 1994, 1996, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
 ;; Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 
-;; Author: Hans Henrik Eriksen <hhe@ifi.uio.no>
-;; Maintainer: simula-mode@ifi.uio.no
+;; Author: Hans Henrik Eriksen <hhe@ifi.uio.no> (invalid email address, checked April 2008)
+;; Maintainer: simula-mode@ifi.uio.no (invalid email address, checked April 2008)
 ;; Adapted-By: ESR
 ;; Keywords: languages
 
@@ -1630,7 +1630,7 @@ If not nil and not t, move to limit of s
 \f
 ;; defuns for submitting bug reports
 
-(defconst simula-mode-help-address "simula-mode@ifi.uio.no"
+(defconst simula-mode-help-address "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"
   "Address accepting submission of `simula-mode' bug reports.")
 
 (defun simula-submit-bug-report ()
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/vera-mode.el emacs/lisp/progmodes/vera-mode.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/vera-mode.el	2008-01-08 22:46:21.000000000 +0200
+++ emacs/lisp/progmodes/vera-mode.el	2008-04-15 19:39:13.000000000 +0300
@@ -75,6 +75,13 @@
 
 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 18/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;;; Code:
 
 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el emacs/lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el	2008-03-28 18:47:24.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el	2008-04-15 19:39:24.000000000 +0300
@@ -112,6 +112,13 @@
 ;; See commit history at http://www.veripool.com/verilog-mode.html
 ;; (This section is required to appease checkdoc.)
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 19/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;;; Code:
 
 ;; This variable will always hold the version number of the mode
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/vhdl-mode.el emacs/lisp/progmodes/vhdl-mode.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/progmodes/vhdl-mode.el	2008-04-05 06:43:06.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/progmodes/vhdl-mode.el	2008-04-15 19:39:35.000000000 +0300
@@ -123,6 +123,13 @@
 
 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 18/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;;; Code:
 
 ;; Emacs 21+ handling
diff -uprN emacs-vanilla/lisp/textmodes/artist.el emacs/lisp/textmodes/artist.el
--- emacs-vanilla/lisp/textmodes/artist.el	2008-04-10 17:10:41.000000000 +0300
+++ emacs/lisp/textmodes/artist.el	2008-04-15 19:36:54.000000000 +0300
@@ -105,7 +105,6 @@
 ;; If you add a new drawing mode, send it to me, and I would gladly
 ;; include in the next release!
 
-
 ;;; Installation:
 
 ;; To use artist, put this in your .emacs:
@@ -125,6 +124,13 @@
 ;; to be loadable, unless the variable `artist-picture-compatibility'
 ;; is set to nil.
 
+;;; Bug reports:
+;;
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 19/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is filed in
+;; the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy of the bug
+;; report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;;; Known bugs:
 
 ;; The shifted operations are not available when drawing with the mouse

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Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Stefan Monnier]

>>> Sorry for the delay in getting back on this, but I emailed everyone at
>>> least twice, and allowed ample response time.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>>> At the bottom this mail are two small patches for email addresses which
>>> are outright broken, or simply don't exist anymore.
>> 
>> Could you send a patch that adds all the information you collected,
>> directly in the files?

> Is this what you had in mind?

Almost perfect: can you fix your patch so as to remove all those
spurious CVS/Entries thingies (hint: use "cvs diff" rather than
"diff -r")?  Also please move the "Bug reports:" sections from within
the "Commentary:" section to the very beginning of the file, right after
the "Author:" and "Maintainer:" info.


        Stefan

Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Yoni Rabkin]

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Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>>> Sorry for the delay in getting back on this, but I emailed everyone at
>>>> least twice, and allowed ample response time.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>>> At the bottom this mail are two small patches for email addresses which
>>>> are outright broken, or simply don't exist anymore.
>>> 
>>> Could you send a patch that adds all the information you collected,
>>> directly in the files?
>
>> Is this what you had in mind?
>
> Almost perfect: can you fix your patch so as to remove all those
> spurious CVS/Entries thingies (hint: use "cvs diff" rather than
> "diff -r")?  Also please move the "Bug reports:" sections from within
> the "Commentary:" section to the very beginning of the file, right after
> the "Author:" and "Maintainer:" info.

OK, how about:


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diff -u -r1.99 ediff.el
--- lisp/ediff.el	10 Apr 2008 14:09:36 -0000	1.99
+++ lisp/ediff.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:38 -0000
@@ -7,6 +7,11 @@
 ;; Created: February 2, 1994
 ;; Keywords: comparing, merging, patching, tools, unix
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 20/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 (defconst ediff-version "2.81.2" "The current version of Ediff")
 (defconst ediff-date "April 06, 2008" "Date of last update")
 
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===================================================================
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retrieving revision 1.115
diff -u -r1.115 viper.el
--- lisp/emulation/viper.el	6 Apr 2008 19:26:00 -0000	1.115
+++ lisp/emulation/viper.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:40 -0000
@@ -9,6 +9,11 @@
 ;; Author: Michael Kifer <kifer@cs.stonybrook.edu>
 ;; Keywords: emulations
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 20/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 (defconst viper-version "3.14 of April 06, 2008"
   "The current version of Viper")
 
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===================================================================
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retrieving revision 1.19
diff -u -r1.19 hilit19.el
--- lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el	11 Apr 2008 07:44:47 -0000	1.19
+++ lisp/obsolete/hilit19.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:41 -0000
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 ;; Copyright (C) 1993, 1994, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004,
 ;;   2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 
-;; Author:   Jonathan Stigelman <stig@hackvan.com>
+;; Author:   Jonathan Stigelman <stig@hackvan.com> (broken email address. checked April 2008)
 ;; Maintainer: FSF
 ;;	(actually no longer maintained)
 ;; Keywords: faces
@@ -411,7 +411,7 @@
   (require 'reporter)
   (and (y-or-n-p "Do you really want to submit a report on hilit19? ")
        (reporter-submit-bug-report
-	"Jonathan Stigelman <hilit@hackvan.com>"
+	"bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"
 	"hilit19.el (Release 2.19)"
 	(and (y-or-n-p "Do you need to include a dump hilit variables? ")
 	     (append
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retrieving revision 1.50
diff -u -r1.50 cmacexp.el
--- lisp/progmodes/cmacexp.el	10 Apr 2008 14:10:37 -0000	1.50
+++ lisp/progmodes/cmacexp.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:42 -0000
@@ -7,6 +7,13 @@
 ;; Adapted-By: ESR
 ;; Keywords: c
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is filed in the
+;; Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy of the bug
+;; report be sent to the maintainer's email address. However, the
+;; maintainer prefers not to be the only person maintaining this file
+;; in future.
+
 ;; This file is part of GNU Emacs.
 
 ;; GNU Emacs is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
Index: lisp/progmodes/ps-mode.el
===================================================================
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retrieving revision 1.28
diff -u -r1.28 ps-mode.el
--- lisp/progmodes/ps-mode.el	10 Apr 2008 14:10:40 -0000	1.28
+++ lisp/progmodes/ps-mode.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:42 -0000
@@ -9,6 +9,13 @@
 ;; Version:    1.1h, 16 Jun 2005
 ;; Keywords:   PostScript, languages
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 18/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address, but
+;; only if: "... those e-mails have a link to the bug report system,
+;; where I can cancel these e-mails if I want to.".
+
 ;; This file is part of GNU Emacs.
 
 ;; GNU Emacs is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
Index: lisp/progmodes/simula.el
===================================================================
RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/progmodes/simula.el,v
retrieving revision 1.42
diff -u -r1.42 simula.el
--- lisp/progmodes/simula.el	10 Apr 2008 14:10:40 -0000	1.42
+++ lisp/progmodes/simula.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:44 -0000
@@ -3,8 +3,8 @@
 ;; Copyright (C) 1992, 1994, 1996, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
 ;; Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 
-;; Author: Hans Henrik Eriksen <hhe@ifi.uio.no>
-;; Maintainer: simula-mode@ifi.uio.no
+;; Author: Hans Henrik Eriksen <hhe@ifi.uio.no> (invalid email address, checked April 2008)
+;; Maintainer: simula-mode@ifi.uio.no (invalid email address, checked April 2008)
 ;; Adapted-By: ESR
 ;; Keywords: languages
 
@@ -1630,7 +1630,7 @@
 \f
 ;; defuns for submitting bug reports
 
-(defconst simula-mode-help-address "simula-mode@ifi.uio.no"
+(defconst simula-mode-help-address "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org"
   "Address accepting submission of `simula-mode' bug reports.")
 
 (defun simula-submit-bug-report ()
Index: lisp/progmodes/vera-mode.el
===================================================================
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retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -r1.9 vera-mode.el
--- lisp/progmodes/vera-mode.el	8 Jan 2008 20:46:21 -0000	1.9
+++ lisp/progmodes/vera-mode.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:44 -0000
@@ -9,6 +9,11 @@
 ;; Keywords:    languages vera
 ;; WWW:         http://www.iis.ee.ethz.ch/~zimmi/emacs/vera-mode.html
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 18/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 (defconst vera-version "2.18"
   "Vera Mode version number.")
 
Index: lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el
===================================================================
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retrieving revision 1.18
diff -u -r1.18 verilog-mode.el
--- lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el	28 Mar 2008 15:47:24 -0000	1.18
+++ lisp/progmodes/verilog-mode.el	16 Apr 2008 08:28:50 -0000
@@ -11,6 +11,11 @@
 ;;	http://www.veripool.com
 ;; Keywords: languages
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 19/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;;    This code supports Emacs 21.1 and later
 ;;    And XEmacs 21.1 and later
 ;;    Please do not make changes that break Emacs 21.  Thanks!
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diff -u -r1.70 vhdl-mode.el
--- lisp/progmodes/vhdl-mode.el	5 Apr 2008 03:43:06 -0000	1.70
+++ lisp/progmodes/vhdl-mode.el	16 Apr 2008 08:29:00 -0000
@@ -9,6 +9,11 @@
 ;; Keywords:    languages vhdl
 ;; WWW:         http://www.iis.ee.ethz.ch/~zimmi/emacs/vhdl-mode.html
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 18/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is
+;; filed in the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy
+;; of the bug report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 (defconst vhdl-version "3.33.6"
   "VHDL Mode version number.")
 
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diff -u -r1.37 artist.el
--- lisp/textmodes/artist.el	10 Apr 2008 14:10:41 -0000	1.37
+++ lisp/textmodes/artist.el	16 Apr 2008 08:29:04 -0000
@@ -10,6 +10,11 @@
 ;; Release-date: 6-Aug-2004
 ;; Location:     http://www.lysator.liu.se/~tab/artist/
 
+;; Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net> contacted the maintainer of this
+;; file on 19/3/2008, and the maintainer agreed that when a bug is filed in
+;; the Emacs bug reporting system against this file, a copy of the bug
+;; report be sent to the maintainer's email address.
+
 ;; This file is part of GNU Emacs.
 
 ;; GNU Emacs is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
@@ -105,7 +110,6 @@
 ;; If you add a new drawing mode, send it to me, and I would gladly
 ;; include in the next release!
 
-
 ;;; Installation:
 
 ;; To use artist, put this in your .emacs:
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Re: TODO item: obsolete bug-reporting commands

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Almost perfect: can you fix your patch so as to remove all those
>> spurious CVS/Entries thingies (hint: use "cvs diff" rather than
>> "diff -r")?  Also please move the "Bug reports:" sections from within
>> the "Commentary:" section to the very beginning of the file, right after
>> the "Author:" and "Maintainer:" info.

> OK, how about:

Thank you very much, installed,


        Stefan