From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (aset UNIBYTE-STRING MULTIBYTE-CHAR) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208277774 24889 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2008 16:42:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kazu@iij.ad.jp, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 15 18:43:29 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jlnkl-0005oh-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:11:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jlnk6-0003Fm-Dp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlnSo-0004V1-JU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JlnSe-0004Rh-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlnSe-0004Rc-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JlnSd-0008Fu-8N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:43 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB90F2CFAA9; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621593FE0; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 40713AF5C6; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:52:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:11:20 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.819, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, STOCK_S_SYMB 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95286 Archived-At: >> > > That inefficiency may or may not be important in any given context. >> > > Fixing it in casefiddle is definitely desirable. >> > > But is it worth breaking all such packages just so that they >> > > will optimize an operation that might not use much of the time anyway? >> > Why work around the problem in `aset' if it isn't worth fixing in the >> > original code? >> But you wrote: >> > > Then, shouldn't we start the experiment of inhibitting aset >> > > on strings just now? >> > >> > But I do not think we're ready for that. Maybe 10 years from now... >> I want to avoid treating non-ASCII chars different from >> ASCII. Then, the only solution is to make aset work well >> for multibyte characters. > The attached simple change does the work. May I install it? I guess it's OK. It's pretty ugly in terms of code, but in terms of behavior it more or less matches the behavior of what I use (where I distinguish between unibyte/anybyte/multibyte), Stefan