From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 20:56:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <5jr6clncn8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87od7p22dw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200805021331.m42DVYVw016584@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200805021610.m42GAhkE001271@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209949037 12581 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2008 00:57:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 00:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , Chong Yidong , Dan Nicolaescu , Nick Roberts , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 05 02:57:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jsp1a-0008F1-Up for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 May 2008 02:57:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58153 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jsp0t-0002mg-CN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 20:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jsp0p-0002mX-O7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 20:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jsp0n-0002mI-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 20:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59576 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jsp0n-0002mF-0c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2008 20:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182] helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jsp0j-00047q-1W; Sun, 04 May 2008 20:56:57 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq0DADD4HUjO+JghdGdsb2JhbACBU5AiASeWLQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,435,1204520400"; d="scan'208";a="19905909" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 04 May 2008 20:56:54 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.152.33]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id LFJ24254; Sun, 04 May 2008 20:56:54 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4ECAA856B; Sun, 4 May 2008 20:56:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Mon, 05 May 2008 08:52:25 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96469 Archived-At: > The problem in the multi-tty case is, some changes that are > totally unrelated to multi-tty were mixed into the multi-tty > merger. If it was intentional, that's unfair. Otherwise, I > doubt if the author did that job with enough understanding of the > code. The multi-tty code was first written as a kind of "fork" of Emacs. It included various changes that were just preferences of the author (e.g. the way the emacsclient interface was changed). Part of the integration of the code involved splitting the patch into the multi-tty functionality and the "user preferences". This was not done very well, AFAICT and several changes were applied later on to revert some parts of the multi-tty merge (I am personally familiar with the emacsclient/server.el part of it). The multi-tty change is not different from any other: if there's a part which you find dubious, please bring it up here so we can fix it (either reverting that part of the change, or adding comments to better explain it, ...). Notice that it's not too late to revert parts of the multi-tty merge. Stefan