From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeogih6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <488020A4.4060601@harpegolden.net> <873am6rb8k.fsf@jurta.org> <87r69oqojm.fsf@jurta.org> <4886A7D0.8070007@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216785212 4725 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2008 03:53:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa , lekktu@gmail.com, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, miles@gnu.org To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 05:54:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLVQe-00069R-5n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:54:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLVPk-0005pY-RS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLVPf-0005oj-AZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLVPd-0005oG-Ss for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43618 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLVPd-0005oD-N4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:4987 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLVPa-0001d0-Cu; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:10 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgFAFxIhkhFxIYw/2dsb2JhbACBWq9ZgXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,235,1215403200"; d="scan'208";a="24664574" Original-Received: from 69-196-134-48.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.134.48]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 22 Jul 2008 23:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3AC704B4B2; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:53:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4886A7D0.8070007@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:38:56 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101278 Archived-At: > But there's also the issue that unicode includes a number of other > common fractions, so it might be nice to allow for supporting 'em as C-x > 8 1/3 for =E2=85=93 and similar for =E2=85=9D =E2=85=97 etc. in future. That's OK. They don't need to use "1 / 3" and can use "/ 1 3" instead, for example. >> with something else, and then use C-x 8 NNNN RET.=20 > Should allow for N to NNNNNN, not just NNNN . That's what the RET is for. >> Note that I'd also imagine the NNNN to use hex, so it would also >> conflict with other existing bindings,=20 > Also N.B. conflicts change depending on M-x iso-transl-set-language! Thanks for pointing it out. > IMO might be better to just require a single character prefix, rather > than eating so much of C-x 8 space. > C-x 8 # 263a seems nice to me, though, my bad, > C-x 8 0 263a is perhaps easier to type for people who > aren't using british keyboards (# is an unshifted key for british/irish). I think sticking to digits is the best choice since it's the only one that guarantees there won't be any need to dance around with modifiers. > Is it a goal to eventually deprecate C-q entry? Very much so, yes. > Just wondering... C-q 0x263a doesn't seem so bad... C-x 8 0 2 6 3 a is just as short. And if we can drop the 0, it's even shorter. Stefan