bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer

bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer

[Kenichi Handa]

It seems that the global minor mode defined by
define-global-minor-mode doesn't work in a newly created
buffer of fundamental mode.  Currently
global-auto-composition-mode is defined as this:

(define-global-minor-mode global-auto-composition-mode
  auto-composition-mode turn-on-auto-composition-if-enabled
  ;; This :extra-args' appears to be the result of a naive copy&paste
  ;; from global-font-lock-mode.
  ;; :extra-args (dummy)
  :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay
  :init-value (not noninteractive)
  :group 'auto-composition
  :version "23.1")

When I create a new buffer by C-x b temp RET,
auto-composition-mode is not turned on in the "temp" buffer.
When I do M-x fundatmenta-mode RET in that buffer,
auto-composition-mode is turned on.

Isn't this a bug?

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org


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bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer

[Glenn Morris]

merge 4887 5153
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Kenichi Handa wrote:

> It seems that the global minor mode defined by
> define-global-minor-mode doesn't work in a newly created buffer of
> fundamental mode.
[...]
> Isn't this a bug?

Yes, it's bug#4887: "globalized-minor-modes in new fundamental mode
buffers".

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bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer
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bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer

[Glenn Morris]

Kenichi Handa wrote (on Tue, 8 Dec 2009 at 17:08 +0900):

> > Yes, it's bug#4887: "globalized-minor-modes in new fundamental mode
> > buffers".
> 
> Ah, thank you for letting me know about it. I didn't notice it
> because I just searched for the word "global-minor-mode". First of
> all, I didn't notice that define-global-minor-mode has been renamed.
> :-(
> 
> Do you know the rationale of this name change? The docstring and
> info still uses the word "global" instead of "globalized".

I didn't bother to read the discussion:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2006-12/msg01298.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-01/msg00841.html

bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <19230.3985.532127.299876@fencepost.gnu.org>, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

> > Do you know the rationale of this name change? The docstring and
> > info still uses the word "global" instead of "globalized".

> I didn't bother to read the discussion:

> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2006-12/msg01298.html
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-01/msg00841.html

Thank you for the links.

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Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org

bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer

[Stefan Monnier]

> It seems that the global minor mode defined by
> define-global-minor-mode doesn't work in a newly created
> buffer of fundamental mode.

> Isn't this a bug?

I think it's not, tho it's obviously a misfeature.  I think the best
answer is to say that a buffer that is intended to be displayed to the
user should call a major-mode function.  If there's no specific
major-mode for it, it should call fundamental-mode.


        Stefan

bug#5153: 23.1.50; define-global-minor-mode and a new fundamental buffer

[Kenichi Handa]

In article <jwvr5r5fu9v.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> > It seems that the global minor mode defined by
> > define-global-minor-mode doesn't work in a newly created
> > buffer of fundamental mode.

> > Isn't this a bug?

> I think it's not, tho it's obviously a misfeature.  I think the best
> answer is to say that a buffer that is intended to be displayed to the
> user should call a major-mode function.  If there's no specific
> major-mode for it, it should call fundamental-mode.

Ok, I see.  I wrote that to the bug list of gettext/po-mode.el.

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Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org