From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch. Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <30298845.656931270806476838.JavaMail.www@wwinf4631> <4BBF0C6C.7000909@swipnet.se> <4BC011F5.9010505@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270912856 20982 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2010 15:20:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Emacs Dev \[emacs-devel\]" To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 10 17:20:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0cUN-00080V-Sj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:20:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40479 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0cUN-00005D-6d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:20:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O0cTA-0007wr-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47562 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O0cT7-0007vH-KB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0cT6-0006QE-7t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:32883 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O0cT6-0006Q4-5N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:32 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAEszwEtMCqWu/2dsb2JhbACbQ3K5WYUMBItG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,182,1270440000"; d="scan'208";a="60590741" Original-Received: from 76-10-165-174.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.165.174]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 10 Apr 2010 11:19:31 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8EE787F1B; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:19:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC011F5.9010505@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:51:49 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123439 Archived-At: > I'm not a big fan for making things general just for the sake of making > things general so we maybe in the future can add something we don't know > what it is now. It's not just making them more general. It's making them work in the "right/natural" way. In Emacs this usually means among other things that clicks on it should generate Elisp events caught via a keymap and that the list of tabs should be specified by Elisp code. > Are there any concrete examples of other uses? I can imagine switching the buffer of one of the windows (in an ECB-style frame, for example). In mpc.el I could imagine using it to switch between various selections. > I still think window configurations are the "natural" thing, as this > is how tabs are used in web browsers, other editors, IDE:s and so on. No one is arguing against that. > But implementation for the primary use case (window configurations) > should not have to suffer because of other uses. I still don't understand what kind of suffering you're referring to. If you could describe more concretely (e.g. what kind of undesirable user-behavior could happen in which case and why). Stefan