From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: autoload cookies for defcustoms Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:54:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2DC911234A9B4A6ABD34459FB8C26C1C@us.oracle.com> <87fwxxoio1.fsf@gmail.com> <4d7hj99qtc.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k4n8z3it.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1283187297 24019 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2010 16:54:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , 'Emacs-Devel devel' To: Wojciech Meyer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 30 18:54:54 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq7dC-0006rs-Ix for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:54:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48383 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oq7Oq-0003Aj-0q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:40:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45173 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oq6hJ-00046p-Fd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:55:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq6h9-0006nV-Mc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:54:56 -0400 Original-Received: from impaqm4.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.4]:35959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oq6h9-0006mv-HN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:54:51 -0400 Original-Received: from IMPmailhost2.adm.correo ([10.20.102.39]) by IMPaqm4.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id 0fRU1f00H0r0BT63QfuqbP; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:54:50 +0200 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([217.126.152.201]) by IMPmailhost2.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id 0fuo1f00H4LyPzM1ifupfd; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:54:49 +0200 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-TE-authinfo: authemail="monnier$movistar.es" |auth_email="monnier@movistar.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitnetc01" Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1934E660DF; Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:54:49 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87k4n8z3it.fsf@gmail.com> (Wojciech Meyer's message of "Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:30:34 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129434 Archived-At: > Did a blanket replace. (however in the example you showed me I see some > toplevel code evaluated). It is up to maintainers what to do with the > patch, it just shows `defcustoms' with `autoload'. I might refine it if > somebody comes up with rules to follow. The reason we haven't removed tham is because there is no mechanical rule to follow: it depends on whether the change is likely to bump into code (in Elisp packages or in .emacs configs) that expects them to be predefined :-( The difficulty of removing them is the main reason why I hate them. Stefan