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* [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
@ 2013-09-06  6:31 jean haidouk
  2013-09-06 18:39 ` Davis Herring
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: jean haidouk @ 2013-09-06  6:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Hi,

Here is a patch to add support for the french Œ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%92#Encodings

Thanks.

---
 leim/ChangeLog           |    6 ++++++
 leim/quail/latin-alt.el  |    8 +++++++-
 leim/quail/latin-post.el |    8 ++++++--
 leim/quail/latin-pre.el  |    4 ++++
 4 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/leim/ChangeLog b/leim/ChangeLog
index 3e25c0e..c85a4d5 100644
--- a/leim/ChangeLog
+++ b/leim/ChangeLog
@@ -1,3 +1,9 @@
+2013-09-05  Jean Haidouk  <haidouk@yandex.com>
+
+	* quail/latin-pre.el ("french-prefix"):
+	* quail/latin-post.el ("french-postfix"):
+	* quail/latin-alt.el ("french-alt-postfix"): Add U+0152 `œ'.
+
 2013-08-28  Paul Eggert  <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
 
 	* Makefile.in (SHELL): Now @SHELL@, not /bin/sh,
diff --git a/leim/quail/latin-alt.el b/leim/quail/latin-alt.el
index fdfc89f..6841947 100644
--- a/leim/quail/latin-alt.el
+++ b/leim/quail/latin-alt.el
@@ -938,7 +938,7 @@ Par exemple: a` -> à   e' -> é.
 En doublant la frappe des diacritiques, ils s'isoleront de la lettre.
 Par exemple: e'' -> e'
 
-<e dans l'o> n'est pas disponible."
+Œ est produit par O/."
  nil t nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t)
 
 (quail-define-rules
@@ -959,7 +959,9 @@ Par exemple: e'' -> e'
  ("i^" ?î)
  ("i\"" ?ï)
  ("O^" ?Ô)
+ ("O/" ?Œ)
  ("o^" ?ô)
+ ("o/" ?œ)
  ("U`" ?Ù)
  ("U^" ?Û)
  ("U\"" ?Ü)
@@ -988,8 +990,9 @@ Par exemple: e'' -> e'
  ("i^^" ["i^"])
  ("i\"\"" ["i\""])
  ("O^^" ["O^"])
  + ("O//" ["O/"])
  ("o^^" ["o^"])
+ ("o//" ["o/"])
  ("U``" ["U`"])
  ("U^^" ["U^"])
  ("U\"\"" ["U\""])
@@ -1423,6 +1427,7 @@ Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'
  ("O'" ?Ó)
  ("O-" ?Ō)
  ("O/" ?Ø)
+ ("O/" ?Œ)
  ("O:" ?Ő)
  ("O\"" ?Ö)
  ("O^" ?Ô)
@@ -1515,6 +1520,7 @@ Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'
  ("o'" ?ó)
  ("o-" ?ō)
  ("o/" ?ø)
+ ("o/" ?œ)
  ("o:" ?ő)
  ("o\"" ?ö)
  ("o^" ?ô)
diff --git a/leim/quail/latin-post.el b/leim/quail/latin-post.el
index 67cd064..7fa3d88 100644
--- a/leim/quail/latin-post.el
+++ b/leim/quail/latin-post.el
@@ -1013,7 +1013,7 @@ Par exemple: a` -> à   e' -> é.
 En doublant la frappe des diacritiques, ils s'isoleront de la lettre.
 Par exemple: e'' -> e'
 
-<e dans l'o> n'est pas disponible."
+Œ est produit par O/."
  nil t nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t)
 
 (quail-define-rules
@@ -1034,7 +1034,9 @@ Par exemple: e'' -> e'
  ("i^" ?î)
  ("i\"" ?ï)
  ("O^" ?Ô)
+ ("O/" ?Œ)
  ("o^" ?ô)
+ ("o/" ?œ)
  ("U`" ?Ù)
  ("U^" ?Û)
  ("U\"" ?Ü)
@@ -1063,7 +1065,9 @@ Par exemple: e'' -> e'
  ("i^^" ["i^"])
  ("i\"\"" ["i\""])
  ("O^^" ["O^"])
+ ("O//" ["O/"])
  ("o^^" ["o^"])
+ ("o//" ["o/"])
  ("U``" ["U`"])
  ("U^^" ["U^"])
  ("U\"\"" ["U\""])
@@ -2099,7 +2103,7 @@ of characters from a single Latin-N charset.
   dot        |    .    | z. -> ż
   stroke     |    /    | d/ -> đ
   nordic     |    /    | d/ -> ð   t/ -> þ   a/ -> å   e/ -> æ   o/ -> ø
-  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °
+  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °   o/ -> œ
              | various | << -> «   >> -> »   o_ -> º   a_ -> ª
 
 Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'
diff --git a/leim/quail/latin-pre.el b/leim/quail/latin-pre.el
index 4b4179e..c6085f3 100644
--- a/leim/quail/latin-pre.el
+++ b/leim/quail/latin-pre.el
@@ -264,6 +264,7 @@ Key translation rules are:
   diaeresis  |   \"    | \"i -> ï
    cedilla   | ~ or , | ~c -> ç   ,c -> ç
    symbol    |   ~    | ~> -> »   ~< -> «
+    misc     |   /    | /o -> œ
 " nil t nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil t)
 
 (quail-define-rules
@@ -295,6 +296,9 @@ Key translation rules are:
  ("\"e" ?ë)
  ("\"i" ?ï)
  ("\" " ?\")
+ ("/o" ?œ)
+ ("/O" ?Œ)
+ ("/ " ?/)
  ("~<" ?\«)
  ("~>" ?\»)
  ("~C" ?Ç)
-- 



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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06  6:31 [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o" jean haidouk
@ 2013-09-06 18:39 ` Davis Herring
  2013-09-06 22:06   ` jean haidouk
                     ` (2 more replies)
  2013-09-06 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier
  2013-09-09 19:28 ` Stefan Monnier
  2 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Davis Herring @ 2013-09-06 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jean Haidouk; +Cc: emacs-devel

> @@ -2099,7 +2103,7 @@ of characters from a single Latin-N charset.
>    dot        |    .    | z. -> ż
>    stroke     |    /    | d/ -> đ
>    nordic     |    /    | d/ -> ð   t/ -> þ   a/ -> å   e/ -> æ   o/ -> ø
> -  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °
> +  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °   o/ -> œ
>               | various | << -> «   >> -> »   o_ -> º   a_ -> ª
>  
>  Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'

I think you have overridden "o/" here...

Davis

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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06 18:39 ` Davis Herring
@ 2013-09-06 22:06   ` jean haidouk
  2013-09-07  4:32   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  2013-09-07  5:58   ` Andreas Schwab
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: jean haidouk @ 2013-09-06 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Davis Herring; +Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org

I replicated for the latin-prefix input-method what was already done for the latin-9-prefix input-method. There is even a comment justifying that:
`("/o" ?œ)				; clash with ø, but æ uses /'

This is supported. You have to enter an extra number to insert the character.
The mini buffer looks like this after entering `/o':
`/o                   (01/01) 1.ø 2.œ'

Thanks for reviewing my little patch. 

Jean


06.09.2013, 20:39, "Davis Herring" <herring@lanl.gov>:
>>  @@ -2099,7 +2103,7 @@ of characters from a single Latin-N charset.
>>     dot        |    .    | z. -> ż
>>     stroke     |    /    | d/ -> đ
>>     nordic     |    /    | d/ -> ð   t/ -> þ   a/ -> å   e/ -> æ   o/ -> ø
>>  -  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °
>>  +  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °   o/ -> œ
>>                | various | << -> «   >> -> »   o_ -> º   a_ -> ª
>>
>>   Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'
>
> I think you have overridden "o/" here...
>
> Davis
>
> --
> This product is sold by volume, not by mass.  If it appears too dense or
> too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during
> shipping.



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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06  6:31 [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o" jean haidouk
  2013-09-06 18:39 ` Davis Herring
@ 2013-09-06 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier
  2013-09-06 23:23   ` Drew Adams
  2013-09-09 19:28 ` Stefan Monnier
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-09-06 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jean haidouk; +Cc: emacs-devel

> +Œ est produit par O/."

Why not "OE", which seems more intuitive, and also has the advantage of
not overriding the O/ => Ø mapping?


        Stefan



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* RE: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-09-06 23:23   ` Drew Adams
  2013-09-07  9:01     ` jean haidouk
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2013-09-06 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier, jean haidouk; +Cc: emacs-devel

> > +Œ est produit par O/."
> 
> Why not "OE", which seems more intuitive, and also has the advantage of
> not overriding the O/ => Ø mapping?

Are there cases where you sometimes want "l'o dans l'e" and you sometimes
want "oe"?  Dunno.  What about proper names.  (Or maybe there is a way
to override such abbreviation/composition?)



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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06 18:39 ` Davis Herring
  2013-09-06 22:06   ` jean haidouk
@ 2013-09-07  4:32   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  2013-09-07  5:58   ` Andreas Schwab
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stephen J. Turnbull @ 2013-09-07  4:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Davis Herring; +Cc: emacs-devel, Jean Haidouk

Davis Herring writes:
 > > @@ -2099,7 +2103,7 @@ of characters from a single Latin-N charset.
 > >    dot        |    .    | z. -> ż
 > >    stroke     |    /    | d/ -> đ
 > >    nordic     |    /    | d/ -> ð   t/ -> þ   a/ -> å   e/ -> æ   o/ -> ø
 > > -  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °
 > > +  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °   o/ -> œ
 > >               | various | << -> «   >> -> »   o_ -> º   a_ -> ª
 > >  
 > >  Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'
 > 
 > I think you have overridden "o/" here...

FWIW, the "d/" in the nordic line overides the "d/" in the stroke
line, too.



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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06 18:39 ` Davis Herring
  2013-09-06 22:06   ` jean haidouk
  2013-09-07  4:32   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
@ 2013-09-07  5:58   ` Andreas Schwab
  2013-09-07  6:23     ` Werner LEMBERG
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2013-09-07  5:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Davis Herring; +Cc: emacs-devel, Jean Haidouk

Davis Herring <herring@lanl.gov> writes:

>> @@ -2099,7 +2103,7 @@ of characters from a single Latin-N charset.
>>    dot        |    .    | z. -> ż
>>    stroke     |    /    | d/ -> đ
>>    nordic     |    /    | d/ -> ð   t/ -> þ   a/ -> å   e/ -> æ   o/ -> ø
>> -  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °
>> +  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °   o/ -> œ
>>               | various | << -> «   >> -> »   o_ -> º   a_ -> ª
>>  
>>  Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'
>
> I think you have overridden "o/" here...

No, you'll just get a menu to select one of them.

Andreas.

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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-07  5:58   ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2013-09-07  6:23     ` Werner LEMBERG
  2013-09-07  6:47       ` Werner LEMBERG
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2013-09-07  6:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: schwab; +Cc: haidouk, emacs-devel


>>>    dot        |    .    | z. -> ż
>>>    stroke     |    /    | d/ -> đ
>>>    nordic     |    /    | d/ -> ð   t/ -> þ   a/ -> å   e/ -> æ   o/ -> ø
>>> -  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °
>>> +  others     |    /    | s/ -> ß   ?/ -> ¿   !/ -> ¡   // -> °   o/ -> œ
>>>               | various | << -> «   >> -> »   o_ -> º   a_ -> ª
>>>  
>>>  Doubling the postfix separates the letter and postfix: e.g. a'' -> a'
>>
>> I think you have overridden "o/" here...
> 
> No, you'll just get a menu to select one of them.

Nope.  At least not for `d/' – you only get ð, and đ can't be
selected.  So I think the same is true for ø and œ.


    Werner

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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-07  6:23     ` Werner LEMBERG
@ 2013-09-07  6:47       ` Werner LEMBERG
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2013-09-07  6:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: schwab; +Cc: haidouk, emacs-devel

> Nope.  At least not for `d/' – you only get ð, and đ can't be
> selected.  So I think the same is true for ø and œ.

Wrong, sorry.  I've looked at the wrong input method.


    Werner

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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06 23:23   ` Drew Adams
@ 2013-09-07  9:01     ` jean haidouk
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: jean haidouk @ 2013-09-07  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Drew Adams, Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org

Yes, you definitely want the raw `oe' like in words: poêle, moelleux,  Noël, poésie, poète, coentreprise, coefficient...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%92#French

So OE will be far more frequent than O/ (postfix input) or /O (prefix input) and so far more annoying when typing a french text. 

I kept O/ /O because it was already chosen for the latin-9-input, and it seems better to have an uniform character sequence across all input methods. And for the national specific input method, since Ø does not exists in french, there is no clash.

Jean

07.09.2013, 01:23, "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>:
>>>  +Œ est produit par O/."
>>  Why not "OE", which seems more intuitive, and also has the advantage of
>>  not overriding the O/ => Ø mapping?
>
> Are there cases where you sometimes want "l'o dans l'e" and you sometimes
> want "oe"?  Dunno.  What about proper names.  (Or maybe there is a way
> to override such abbreviation/composition?)



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* Re: [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o"
  2013-09-06  6:31 [PATCH] input-method: french "e dans l'o" jean haidouk
  2013-09-06 18:39 ` Davis Herring
  2013-09-06 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-09-09 19:28 ` Stefan Monnier
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-09-09 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jean haidouk; +Cc: emacs-devel

> Here is a patch to add support for the french Œ.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%92#Encodings

Thanks, installed,


        Stefan



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