From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: About the :distant-foreground face attribute Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:19:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87bnzo9cja.fsf@gnu.org> <59B7E7FC-48D0-4737-B1BB-FFAC5BA9E07A@swipnet.se> <874n5f3162.fsf@gnu.org> <83fvozf86g.fsf@gnu.org> <87r48javwe.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnzmfjxe.fsf@gnu.org> <52D3E689.6050902@dancol.org> <8E16225F-53EF-498A-AB35-66EB9B33B859@swipnet.se> <52D43360.6050605@dancol.org> <9BD01B88-AF13-44DD-8DBE-4598BAC136DD@swipnet.se> <52D45C73.6090906@dancol.org> <52D4EBA9.8050802@swipnet.se> <52D4F2C2.8080800@dancol.org> <52D504A7.80104@swipnet.se> <52D514FF.7010404@dancol.org> <52D52312.6070106@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389738048 32744 80.91.229.3 (14 Jan 2014 22:20:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel To: John Yates Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 14 23:20:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W3CLr-0006gn-A7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:20:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50977 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3CLq-0001Bj-Qt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:20:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3CLe-00018H-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:20:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3CLV-0006b8-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:20:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:50005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W3CLM-0006Yc-Ty; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:20:21 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A0184CB4; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:20:20 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA1C1E5B74; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:19:53 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 89C73B40D3; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:19:53 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (John Yates's message of "Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:51:59 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 132.204.24.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168404 Archived-At: > My lurker's interpretation is that there are two model of emacs usage at > odds here: > 1) emacs is my environement (My emacs controls the horizontal and the > vertical. OS themes be damned! Just stay out of its way.) > 2) emacs as a good citizen in a OS themed setting No: Emacs-24.3 uses the system's fg highlight color for various reasons, but it's a regression and we should fix it. As pointed out, most other text editors only use the system's bg color for highlighting but leave the fg color unchanged during highlighting. That's on the average a better choice (even if some people like it less: they can Customize this aspect very easily). The issue is how to make sure that this "system bg + font-lock foreground" always results in readable text. Stefan