From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19113: Generate a ChangeLog file from commit logs Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:38:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <546D2E75.6090701@cs.ucla.edu> <837fyp7tvi.fsf@gnu.org> <546E2899.4050702@cs.ucla.edu> <54756754.5090103@cs.ucla.edu> <54762721.4060908@cs.ucla.edu> <17zjb2h650.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417793977 6500 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 15:39:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19113@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 16:39:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuyX-0006Ht-1Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 16:39:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuyW-0000Qe-K8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:39:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37607) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuyN-0000PG-3k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:39:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuyF-0003tx-8i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:39:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57581) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuyF-0003ts-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:39:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuyE-0006l1-UI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:39:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19113 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 19113-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19113.141779389325915 (code B ref 19113); Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19113) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2014 15:38:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuxQ-0006ju-ED for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:38:12 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:22955) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XwuxP-0006jl-3a for 19113@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:38:11 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjwPAOwQflRMCqTq/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiEoJ1lkBAQEBBgEBAQEekBdYB4RIBYQ6hkeDYYpllWiBeIQZIYE0gUMBAQE X-IPAS-Result: AjwPAOwQflRMCqTq/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiEoJ1lkBAQEBBgEBAQEekBdYB4RIBYQ6hkeDYYpllWiBeIQZIYE0gUMBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="99641369" Original-Received: from 76-10-164-234.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.164.234]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 05 Dec 2014 10:38:10 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4272D87F8; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 10:38:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <17zjb2h650.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 05 Dec 2014 03:07:07 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:96887 Archived-At: > are important forms of documentation; and frankly I don't even see that > it will save much work. But I'm obviously in a minority, so don't let me > stop you. I do have a list though; do whatever you like in response to it. Good, so let's do it. > 1) There are still things to deal with from the last big change, so I'd > appreciate it if you not do this before January at the earliest. Fine. > 2) Announce the change well in advance, and make it very clear what > people need to do (ie, take much more care with their logs than before). Right. the ./CONTRIBUTE file should pay special attention to it. > Put a clear set of instructions in admin/notes. Eg how will I replace `C-x > 4 a', `C-c C-a' now? (Frankly I expect to keep doing that, just not Indeed, I think for now this will be the recommendation. > 3) How will I mark a change so that it does not generate a ChangeLog? Why bother? > 4) What if I commit something, realize it was wrong, and remove it right > away? Normally I'd delete the ChangeLog entry too. I don't think it's a serious problem. We already use "reverted last change to " regularly. > 5) Will I be able to mark a portion of a log to be excluded from the > generated ChangeLog? I don't think so, but I don't see why that would be a problem. > 6) How does the correction method work (I'm being lazy and not reading > the patch). I think by and large it doesn't: it's too complicated to be of regular use. And since it only fixes the ChangeLog but not the "git log" output, its usefulness is rather limited. > I'm not going to bother to correct them anymore. That's one of the work it will save us. > 7) What dates will entries get? The commit date? This may not match the > push date. What will happen with the dates of entries merged from other > branches. They'll probably gt the commit date. If you want more a more precise explanation of what happened, you'll need to use the "git log" output instead. Stefan