From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 012487b: * lisp/display-line-numbers.el (display-line-numbers-type): Autoload it. Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:22:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20170723072843.23485.53761@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20170723072844.877FD22EF0@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87inijxnda.fsf@detlef> <83r2x57orp.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9s97lul.fsf@gnu.org> <83fudl7k0p.fsf@gnu.org> <83eft56y4n.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500953000 24741 195.159.176.226 (25 Jul 2017 03:23:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 03:23:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 25 05:23:16 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dZqRH-0006AF-FT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 05:23:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58194 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZqRN-000562-2b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:23:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33935) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZqQk-00055x-Em for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:22:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZqQf-0001P5-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:58748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZqQf-0001Nw-BT; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:22:37 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id v6P3MXxE000951; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C8C1F660DF; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 23:22:32 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83eft56y4n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2017 05:36:40 +0300") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6078=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6078> : inlines <5992> : streams <1755650> : uri <2469275> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217009 Archived-At: > We are miscommunicating. By "the problem" I meant the reason(s) why > autoloading a defcustom should be considered undesirable, and by > "proposed solutions" the alternatives for making sure a defcustom'd > variable is defined when it is needed. There is no need for the variable to be defined in order to `setq' it, which is why a simple (defvar foo) is sufficient here. Stefan