From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should mode commands be idempotent? Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:36:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9f11a3c6-b113-4bf6-9dab-f894b2ad77b5@default> <55da155a-03b1-d3ed-4036-12e5a60fa26c@gmail.com> <950166e7-2766-8a3e-1bc2-a93a356f652c@gmail.com> <118feee3-5787-43b7-9c9b-06907a16a448@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506386246 14777 195.159.176.226 (26 Sep 2017 00:37:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:37:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 26 02:37:23 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwdsF-0003M0-Fy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:37:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwdsM-0003bE-MM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwdrh-0003ax-Te for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:36:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwdre-0002DV-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:36:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=47511 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwdre-00029G-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:36:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwdrS-0000Rl-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:36:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ncay41GnYV1JXnQk3bAQYZ/Z1OQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218793 Archived-At: > I'm in favor of good conventions that are explained well. > I'm not yet convinced that what is being talked about > here is a good user convention. It seems the general consensus in this discussion is that it might indeed be a good convention. Since you disagree, maybe you could give us some concrete arguments about why it might be desirable for a minor/major mode to be non-idempotent. Stefan "who feels like he asked already but still hasn't heard any answer"