From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: When calling defuns is a Bad Thing. Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:07:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20181021164110.GA4664@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1540145137 27203 195.159.176.226 (21 Oct 2018 18:05:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:05:37 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 21 20:05:33 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEI6X-0006yT-3b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:05:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEI8d-00056Z-Cp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:07:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47511) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEI8S-00051n-2V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:07:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEI8O-0002IH-Sc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:07:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=33921 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gEI8O-0002Gb-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:07:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gEI6D-0006Zu-Fx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:05:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:QzUibV/6Tdks44+i/1eAZ6YkdSI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230549 Archived-At: > Calling defuns (as opposed to primitives) from edebug is a bad idea, > unless those defuns are also defined in edebug.el. Just as a datapoint, I remember using Edebug to debug itself, and it was very useful to be able to do it (although it's clearly problematic in the general case). So, I partly agree, but I also think maybe we should try and work to make it easier to Edebug any code, even the one used by Edebug. Stefan