From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33796: 27.0.50; Use utf-8 is all our Elisp files Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:46:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3fd27fe5-e650-b207-fdd4-36f805b89b4d@cs.ucla.edu> <83bm5hcroa.fsf@gnu.org> <9f33127d-f01b-b138-7a0c-ffeac7b77938@cs.ucla.edu> <835zvochdj.fsf@gnu.org> <5f113128-36c9-30c6-3413-8dc36051e058@cs.ucla.edu> <83va3nban3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1545399928 6229 195.159.176.226 (21 Dec 2018 13:45:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:45:28 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Paul Eggert , 33796@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 21 14:45:23 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL7D-0001VC-89 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 14:45:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45789 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL9J-0005Tc-Pg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:47:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL98-0005Sl-H0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:47:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL91-0005Rj-HT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:47:20 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL8o-000582-DB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:47:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL8o-00037z-3c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33796 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 33796-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B33796.154539998611973 (code B ref 33796); Fri, 21 Dec 2018 13:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 33796) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2018 13:46:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57231 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL8D-000373-P9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:46:25 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:55299) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gaL8A-00036u-Ug for 33796@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:46:24 -0500 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id wBLDkBcl018370; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:46:11 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4A23C66184; Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:46:11 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83va3nban3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 21 Dec 2018 09:29:36 +0200") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6444=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6444> : inlines <6988> : streams <1807773> : uri <2767931> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:153677 Archived-At: > Not necessarily. I would actually like to hear opinions from people > who read CJK scripts who think the distinction no longer matters, not > these days. BTW, while looking closer, I'm inclined to think that maybe their opinion doesn't matter that much: while the general issue of font choice for CJK text in Elisp files might really affect some users, in the specific case of the files affected by this patch I believe this likely isn't the case, because while there are affected *chars*, there is no affected *text*. More specifically, AFAICT the affected chars are all part of the code and they represent themselves rather than being used as a carrier for a specific meaning in a text (because all this code is about how to insert specific chars). [ Snipped the rest about etc/HELLO. ] Stefan "I asked Chong what he thought about it but said that he's not using CJK enough to be a good source of opinion"