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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: bzg@gnu.org, 16493@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#16493: 24.3.50; (setq search-invisible t) is useless, let's allow to turn visible-mode temporarily on
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 16:06:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr29469uc.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k1exc7nu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 11 May 2019 18:50:13 +0300")

>> Starting from t, (add-to-invisibility-spec 'foo) also has the weird
>> result that it *reduces* the number of properties which cause
>> invisibility (from infinity to 2).
> Yes, but I don't see that as a problem.

Here's another way to look at it:

Give me a circumstance where an Elisp package can make use of the fact
that buffer-invisibility-spec defaults to t?

I can't come up with any, because there are only 3 cases:
- the package doesn't use `invisible` and hence doesn't care.
- the package only uses the `t` value of the `invisible` property, so it
  doesn't care because add-to-invisibility-spec always puts `t` in the list.
- the package uses non-nil, non-t value of the `invisible` property.
  In this case, either the package:
  - calls add-to-invisibility-spec to register that value, in which case
    it doesn't care.
  - doesn't call add-to-invisibility-spec, so the text is only invisible
    until some other unrelated package comes around and calls
    add-to-invisibility-spec, thus causing undesired behavior.

So any package which makes use of this default value is vulnerable to
being broken by activation of some unrelated package.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-11 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-19 14:55 bug#16493: 24.3.50; (setq search-invisible t) is useless, let's allow to turn visible-mode temporarily on Bastien Guerry
2014-01-21  7:57 ` Juri Linkov
2014-01-21 11:15   ` Bastien
2014-01-21 11:19     ` Bastien
2014-01-21 13:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-21 14:20       ` Bastien
2014-11-05 15:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-09 19:30           ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-18 10:41             ` Bastien
2014-11-18 16:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19  8:53                 ` Bastien
2018-04-28 14:28                   ` Bastien
2018-04-28 18:11                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-04-29  9:50                       ` Bastien
2019-04-30  4:34                         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-30  5:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-30 11:15                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-30 12:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-30 12:24                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-04-30 12:45                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-30 15:21                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-01 11:40                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-01 17:02                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-01 17:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-11 15:27                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-11 15:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-11 20:06                                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-05-12  4:23                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-12 15:35                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-12 15:59                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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