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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Federico Tedin <federicotedin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: INSIDE_EMACS and Tramp
Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 16:54:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr1w0g30q.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874ksxf1bx.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 03 May 2020 18:08:34 +0200")

>> In the original situation, IIUC what happens that Eshell sets up
>> INSIDE_EMACS with ",eshell" then creates the process, which gets
>> delegated to Tramp, at which point Tramp would add ",tramp" to
>> INSIDE_EMACS so we'd get what we need.
> This is the scenario indeed. But what happens now, w/o the patch:

w/o which patch?

> - start-file-process (for example) is called.
>
> - Tramp is invoked. It starts a remote shell, passing "
>   "INSIDE=EMACS=28.0.50,tramp:2.5.0-pre".
>
> - The command given by start-file-process is executed, including
>   "INSIDE_EMACS=28.0.50,foo" (for example).

I'm not sure I understand.  Do you mean to say that the code which calls
`start-file-process` runs a command of the form

    /usr/bin/env "INSIDE_EMACS=28.0.50,foo" CMD

[ or something morally equivalent ] ?

If so indeed my approach won't work, but is there a good reason
why the caller would want to do that instead of binding
process-environment around the call to `start-file-process`
(IOW, could we simply say that if the caller does that, they get what
they deserve?).

The problem with your approach is that it means calling `start-process`
from within a Tramp directory could launch a process with INSIDE_EMACS
that contains ",tramp" even tho the process is running locally.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-03 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20200402230536.E0A3F20CDD@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2020-04-03  8:35   ` INSIDE_EMACS and Tramp (was: master f28166d: Copy INSIDE_EMACS env variable to subprocesses in Eshell (Bug#25496)) Michael Albinus
2020-04-04 14:53     ` Federico Tedin
2020-04-04 15:10       ` INSIDE_EMACS and Tramp Michael Albinus
2020-04-04 20:13         ` Federico Tedin
2020-04-13  9:07           ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-17 20:16             ` Federico Tedin
2020-05-02 14:54               ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-02 15:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:04                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-02 16:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 17:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 12:33                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-03 14:51                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 16:08                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-03 20:54                         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-05-04  7:08                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-04  8:47                             ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-04 15:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 16:11                                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-03 14:52                 ` Federico Tedin
2020-05-03 16:19                   ` Michael Albinus

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