From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:54:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvr1qjm4cc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24436.53239.437810.270641@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> (T. V. Raman's message of "Wed, 30 Sep 2020 11:35:35 -0700")
> Since keybindings are a strong emotional issue, I was hoping to
> divide and conquer the problem, i.e. first free up a new prefix key,
> then experiment by putting a set of related commands on that key --
> rather than chasing our tails with arguments over which key to start with.
I think `C-z` is fair game in GUI but freeing it up for other uses in tty
mode will be a very hard sell. This leaves it as "free for GUI-only
bindings" which makes it much less useful than a true "free prefix keymap".
Stefan
> Stefan Monnier writes:
> > > 1. C-z as a prefix --- at present c-z runs suspend-frame under X, and
> > > suspends Emacs on the console.
> >
> > Then again, `C-z` is a standard binding for `undo`. ;-)
> >
> > > Perhaps turn C-z into a new prefix key, and bind the above commands
> > > to C-z z -- that gives us a whole new keymap to play with for the
> > > future.
> >
> > It's true that there's some logic to use C-z, C-x, and C-c for standard
> > prefix keys. Yet, I think this can only make sense if we have a clear
> > idea of what kinds of bindings we'd put into this prefix.
> >
> > > 2. F2 is currently taken up by 2c (2column support) and perhaps it's
> > > time to recover that key, I suspect 2c is not as heavily used to
> > > justify a common key like F2, and it would still have C-x 6
> > > dedicated to it if we take F2 away from it.
> >
> > I agree that the binding of `f2` to `2C-command` can be dropped.
> > Not sure what to bind it to instead, OTOH.
> >
> >
> > Stefan
>
> --
> ♉Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 🦮♉
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-27 9:31 Standardizing more key bindings? Thibaut Verron
2020-09-27 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-28 4:38 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-28 7:39 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 3:30 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 5:07 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 10:36 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-10-01 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-01 5:20 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-29 21:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 4:27 ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-01 6:56 ` References to "REPL" from past Jean Louis
2020-11-01 13:51 ` Standardizing more key bindings? Stefan Monnier
2020-11-02 5:41 ` Richard Stallman
2020-11-02 6:14 ` Yuri Khan
2020-11-02 8:08 ` tomas
2020-11-02 9:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-02 11:40 ` Python REPL using standard library functions Yuri Khan
2020-11-02 22:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 21:35 ` Standardizing more key bindings? Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-01 22:27 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-02 5:46 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-29 21:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-30 6:08 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-30 16:58 ` Opening Up More Keymaps " T.V Raman
2020-09-30 17:29 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-30 18:12 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 18:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 18:35 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 18:41 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-30 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-09-30 19:58 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:00 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-30 20:03 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:00 ` chad
2020-09-30 21:34 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 20:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 20:51 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:13 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-30 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 21:37 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-30 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-30 23:07 ` T.V Raman
2020-10-01 2:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 3:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-01 12:38 ` Ergus
2020-10-01 14:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-01 14:45 ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-02 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 10:43 ` Ergus
2020-10-04 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-02 3:49 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 11:34 ` Ergus
2020-10-02 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 10:38 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 13:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 16:24 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 17:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-04 17:32 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 17:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06 8:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-10-04 17:46 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-10-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 14:10 ` Howard Melman
2020-10-02 3:45 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 6:26 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-04 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-04 7:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-02 13:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-03 2:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-06 12:53 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 13:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-06 14:24 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-06 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-08 9:40 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2020-10-07 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
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