From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52969: Shortdoc "string" group leads to backtrace Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:19:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ee5o4ktl.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35393"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 52969@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 22:21:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UlX-00091Z-WA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 22:21:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35850 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UlW-0007bE-LR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:21:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UlL-0007UT-Hs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UlL-0003im-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UlK-00007T-1n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 21:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52969 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52969-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52969.1641244804329 (code B ref 52969); Mon, 03 Jan 2022 21:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52969) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2022 21:20:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UkO-00005B-2s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:20:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:33071) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UkM-0008WA-2A for 52969@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6FA6B1001C2; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:19:56 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 20D5710000B; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:19:55 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1641244795; bh=l1QWYjwPWXJVDQJMbmD7lM7y21kM5UyFke/gu1J10Oo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=pZjZ2cC/kfhu72wCmAHb4n2v9+gD7zgS6TWzmrmiPV8p9iBkoFsU8sUkiwk0H6g4R B4PXag5uUQDeLjDb8QWpV++T6qVATWMz9RxGa7/GyhVpsx24bjcUZ7TFWdJeaJ2kd4 Blky6a0gOWCMkwQXXuTe8WPBruj6E+tgic32IlqLclEe9GY9Hk+1fJqXFIJDlQ0GNL 9dPi29s5iE3RtnSjWcJdhFhT8VZLOf9zfb/GTsVwRklkw4tzf7m0f2NskYfvmxR2Go hpm1VRrhZTkhAH56Nf4cE5vyIzVkSQdSMRDZOYculi235nGvLxciT8+pSI/1NlGwzr A/luCBKYD3GYA== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0C601203A9; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:19:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:05:12 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223609 Archived-At: > As for disadvantages to n=B03, I remember trying it out some months ago b= ut > I can't remember why nor can I remember why I haven't kept this change > in my local hacks. Sorry. I seem to remember that one of the motivations for trying it out had to do with having an `;;;###autoload` cookie on a piece of code which used an autoloaded macro, so loading `loaddef.el` would cause (auto)loading the package which provides the macro. Byte compiling `loaddefs.el` was a way to fix this problem. Stefan