From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: 21 Nov 2003 10:03:53 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <87ad6vdsxi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBBD155.2050703@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069431657 23611 80.91.224.253 (21 Nov 2003 16:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ihs_4664@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 21 17:20:52 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANE1b-0004XW-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:20:51 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ANE1b-00050Z-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:20:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ANEkq-0001Tb-Bl for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:07:36 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ANEja-0001DA-Kr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ANEJH-0002fm-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ANDmb-0001Ho-RY; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:05:21 -0500 Original-Received: from vor.iro.umontreal.ca (vor.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.42]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hALF3rbj022833; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:03:54 -0500 Original-Received: by vor.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C73333C63E; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:03:53 -0500 (EST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18019 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18019 > What is the benefit ? Why should something be only allowed via M-x > customize-variable but not via M-x set-variable (and vice-versa, BTW) ? > Maybe it would be ok to use customizability as the criterion > for user-variable-p. However, I am not sure it would be an improvement > over the current way of handling things. AFAIK, the current way of doing things is already to use customizability as a criterion for user-variable-p, making * only meaningful for defvar but not for defcustom. Are you saying that you want to remove even the support for * in defvar (instead relying exclusively on defcustom)? That would be fine by me, but it's more than I'm trying to do here (which is to bring the doc in line with the code). Stefan