From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: Old versions of GNU Emacs Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <00f601c4cd12$ad6d66b0$210110ac@NEEEEEEE> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100796256 31742 80.91.229.6 (18 Nov 2004 16:44:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, Ben Wing , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 18 17:43:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CUpO3-0001wA-00 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:43:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUpWt-0003CE-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:53:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUpWh-00037Y-CV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:52:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CUpWf-00036X-Tp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:52:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CUpWf-00036J-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:52:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUpNl-0003I1-Ag; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:41 -0500 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4FC82828D; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:41 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D77A4AC064; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:34 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DBE808CA69; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:43:33 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Andreas Schwab In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:46:23 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:30027 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:17048 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:30027 >> [My recollection is that RMS didn't use CVS for a very long time after >> that though, so I suppose the CVS copy may not be authoritative for >> older versions of 19.] > All versions before the import to savannah were purely RCS based. Actually, the move to CVS happened a bit before Savannah. But yes, it was during the development of Emacs-21.1 (I think it was before Emacs-20.7, tho). > But not all files were under RCS, for example the ChangeLogs were only > version controlled by use of numbered backups, IIRC. Indeed. > I think the import to savannah has preserved the whole RCS history. The move to CVS was done by moving the RCS files into the CVS repository. They were then moved again when we moved to subversions.gnu.org (which was later on accompagnied by the savannah front end). Actually the checkin time of the ChangeLog files (i.e. 1999/09/30) is a pretty good indicator of when the move took place: Version 1.1. was created by Dave Love on 1999/09/30 and Gerd started to commit things a few days later. Stefan