bug#1731: 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys

bug#1731: 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys

[Alex Schröder]

My Mac has a Swiss German keyboard. The keys producing ASCII
characters all work. Therefore the layout is correct. But the
non-ASCII are wrong: Characters like çäöüàéè result in bogus stuff
such as Á‰ˆ¸‡ÈË.

When I use C-h k ä I get the following message:

‰ (translated from ä) is undefined

So Emacs does at some point in time recognize the ä.

In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i386-apple-darwin8.11.1, NS apple-appkit-824.48)
 of 2008-12-30 on Pyrobombus.local
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version
97.112.112.108.101.45.97.112.112.107.105.116.45.56.50.52.46.52.56
configured using `configure  '--with-ns''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  auto-image-file-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  iswitchb-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
ä ä C-h k ä C-x b m e s s <return> <up> C-SPC C-e M-w
<escape> x r e p o r t <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Loading /Users/alex/.session...done
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. [3 times]
‰ (translated from ä) is undefined
Mark set

bug#1731: 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys

[Stefan Monnier]

> My Mac has a Swiss German keyboard. The keys producing ASCII
> characters all work. Therefore the layout is correct. But the
> non-ASCII are wrong: Characters like çäöüàéè result in bogus stuff
> such as Á‰ˆ¸‡ÈË.

> When I use C-h k ä I get the following message:

> ‰ (translated from ä) is undefined

> So Emacs does at some point in time recognize the ä.

Maybe keyboard-coding-system is being naughty?


        Stefan

bug#1731: 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys

[Alex Schröder]

Indeed, investigating my .emacs I find that the culprit is a setting
that used to be necessary in the past:

;; set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman);; no longer necessary in Emacs 23

Excellent.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> My Mac has a Swiss German keyboard. The keys producing ASCII
>> characters all work. Therefore the layout is correct. But the
>> non-ASCII are wrong: Characters like çäöüàéè result in bogus stuff
>> such as Á‰ˆ¸‡ÈË.
>
>> When I use C-h k ä I get the following message:
>
>> ‰ (translated from ä) is undefined
>
>> So Emacs does at some point in time recognize the ä.
>
> Maybe keyboard-coding-system is being naughty?
>
>
>        Stefan
>
>

bug#1731: 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys

[YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu]

>>>>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:41:49 +0100, "Alex =?UTF-8?Q?Schr=C3=B6der"?= <kensanata@gmail.com> said:

> Indeed, investigating my .emacs I find that the culprit is a setting
> that used to be necessary in the past:

> ;; set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman);; no longer necessary in Emacs 23

Even as of Emacs 22.1 Carbon, setting keyboard-coding-system is
effectively meaningless (and thus not harmful), because non-ASCII
character input is handled via Unicode unless you explicitly specify
-DUSE_MAC_TSM=0 when compiling.

				     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
				mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp

bug#1731: 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys

[Stefan Monnier]

> Indeed, investigating my .emacs I find that the culprit is a setting
> that used to be necessary in the past:

> ;; set-keyboard-coding-system 'mac-roman);; no longer necessary in Emacs 23

> Excellent.

Maybe we should add a check to set-keyboard-coding-system so that it
issues at least a warning if it's used on a GUI terminal?


        Stefan

bug#1731: marked as done (23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys)

[Emacs bug Tracking System]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 848 bytes --]


Your message dated Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:01:54 -0400
with message-id <FE6BD93E-0526-49AA-8A20-DD285D5262BF@gmail.com>
and subject line 
has caused the Emacs bug report #1731,
regarding 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys
to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

(NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this
message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system
misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
immediately.)


-- 
1731: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1731
Emacs Bug Tracking System
Contact owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com with problems

[-- Attachment #2: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 4733 bytes --]

From: "Alex Schröder" <kensanata@gmail.com>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.60; Mac OS X problems with non-ASCII keys
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:25:44 +0100
Message-ID: <9abbd5730812291625m26328398k22acc32c851dfd11@mail.gmail.com>

My Mac has a Swiss German keyboard. The keys producing ASCII
characters all work. Therefore the layout is correct. But the
non-ASCII are wrong: Characters like çäöüàéè result in bogus stuff
such as Á‰ˆ¸‡ÈË.

When I use C-h k ä I get the following message:

‰ (translated from ä) is undefined

So Emacs does at some point in time recognize the ä.

In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i386-apple-darwin8.11.1, NS apple-appkit-824.48)
 of 2008-12-30 on Pyrobombus.local
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version
97.112.112.108.101.45.97.112.112.107.105.116.45.56.50.52.46.52.56
configured using `configure  '--with-ns''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  auto-image-file-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  iswitchb-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
ä ä C-h k ä C-x b m e s s <return> <up> C-SPC C-e M-w
<escape> x r e p o r t <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
Loading /Users/alex/.session...done
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. [3 times]
‰ (translated from ä) is undefined
Mark set



[-- Attachment #3: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 2462 bytes --]

From: Adrian Robert <adrian.b.robert@gmail.com>
To: 1731-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:01:54 -0400
Message-ID: <FE6BD93E-0526-49AA-8A20-DD285D5262BF@gmail.com>

Closing, was not an issue.