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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
Cc: Bruce Stephens <bruce.stephens@isode.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Guile in Emacs
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:07:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvpr23mjgl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271173887.6067.53.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> (Thomas Lord's message of "Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:51:27 -0700")

> I dunno.  Maybe.  I'd guess that, no, that's not a 
> good strategy.   Four reasons come quickly to mind:

I agree with your conclusion but for a very different reason.
In my opinion the actual language used is not very important because
most of the code that will be used with Emacs will be written
specifically for Emacs.
The availability of alternative implementations is also of no use
because changing the underlying implementation is the part that's
difficult (at least with Emacs's current structure).

What matters is that we reuse some existing implementation and benefit
from all the work done on it, so we don't have to spend time working on
the Elisp byte-compiler.

I like the idea of Guile not because it's using a "standard preexisting
language with libraries and experienced coders", but because it'll give
us a bunch of hackers working on efficient implementation,
multithreading, ...


        Stefan


PS: The same holds for the redisplay engine; I really hope/wish we will
be able to switch to some other project's redisplay engine at some point.




  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-13 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4B8147A9.7030504@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <87ljemdzxo.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
2010-02-23  5:31   ` Next pretest, and branching plans Jason Rumney
2010-02-23 18:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-23 21:12       ` Jason Rumney
2010-02-24  6:04     ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-24 13:34       ` Sean Sieger
2010-02-24 15:05         ` Davis Herring
2010-02-24 15:18           ` Sean Sieger
2010-02-24 14:05       ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-25 14:26         ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-26 18:03           ` manuals [was Re: Next pretest, and branching plans] Glenn Morris
2010-02-27  2:32             ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-27 16:52         ` Next pretest, and branching plans Johan Bockgård
2010-03-03  3:52           ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-05  0:31             ` Johan Bockgård
2010-03-05 19:50               ` integer overflow [was Re: Next pretest, and branching plans] Glenn Morris
2010-03-05 22:35                 ` integer overflow Stefan Monnier
2010-03-06  2:55                   ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-06  3:11                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-06  7:03                       ` Helmut Eller
2010-03-06 15:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-06 16:23                           ` Davis Herring
2010-03-06 16:33                           ` Drew Adams
2010-03-07  7:52                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-07 16:06                               ` David Kastrup
2010-03-07 17:18                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-07 17:42                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-03-08  4:49                                     ` Jay Belanger
2010-03-08  8:04                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-08 14:41                                   ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 17:32                                     ` Guile in Emacs Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 18:42                                     ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Chad Brown
2010-03-09  7:07                                       ` Ken Raeburn
2010-03-09 16:22                                         ` Guile in Emacs Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-10  8:07                                           ` Ken Raeburn
2010-03-10 13:58                                             ` David Kastrup
2010-03-09  3:19                                     ` Guile in Emacs (was: integer overflow) Richard Stallman
2010-04-11 23:33                                       ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-12 12:30                                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-12 20:05                                           ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 12:44                                             ` Guile in Emacs Bruce Stephens
2010-04-13 15:51                                               ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 16:07                                                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-04-13 18:56                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-13 19:22                                                     ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 10:14                                                   ` Bruce Stephens
2010-04-14 14:10                                                   ` joakim
2010-04-13 19:13                                                 ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14  1:47                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-14  3:33                                                     ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 23:33                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14  5:02                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14  6:45                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 19:07                                                       ` Thomas Lord
2010-04-14 19:34                                                         ` Bruce Stephens
2010-04-14 20:09                                                         ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2010-04-15  7:34                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 23:33                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15  3:52                                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-15  6:01                                                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  6:54                                                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-15 11:59                                                               ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-15 12:49                                                                 ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 13:54                                                                   ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-15 14:03                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15 16:13                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-16 13:48                                                                       ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16 14:03                                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-16 14:25                                                                           ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16 14:25                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-16 14:39                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-16 14:40                                                                           ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-16  8:27                                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-17  4:41                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-19  7:52                                                                         ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-16 22:29                                                                     ` Emacs Info manuals (was: Guile in Emacs) Juri Linkov
2010-04-15 16:11                                                                 ` Guile in Emacs Drew Adams
2010-04-15  7:21                                                             ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15  7:36                                                               ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  8:34                                                                 ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15  9:06                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-04-15  9:45                                                                     ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-15 10:39                                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 18:47                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15 22:42                                                             ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-04-15 22:50                                                               ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-04-17  4:40                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-15 23:02                                                             ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-17  4:40                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-17  6:46                                                                 ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-17 19:55                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 13:30                                                     ` John Wiegley
2010-04-14 14:18                                                       ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-14 15:40                                                       ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14  7:51                                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-04-14  8:42                                                     ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14  9:55                                                     ` immanuel litzroth
2010-04-14 10:28                                                       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 11:25                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-14 12:26                                                           ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 16:49                                                             ` Ken Raeburn
2010-04-14 18:29                                                               ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14 20:02                                                                 ` Ken Raeburn
2010-04-14 11:23                                                       ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 13:11                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-14 13:11                                                       ` Stephen Eilert
2010-04-14 13:49                                                         ` Helmut Eller
2010-04-14 15:47                                                     ` Tom Tromey
2010-04-14 16:41                                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-04-14 20:10                                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-15 10:38                                                       ` Leo
2010-03-06 19:04                           ` integer overflow Helmut Eller
2010-03-06 21:26                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-07  7:51                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-07 19:05                       ` Johan Bockgård
2010-03-06 20:35                   ` Chong Yidong
2010-03-13  3:10     ` Next pretest, and branching plans Christoph
2010-03-13  7:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-13 14:54         ` Christoph
2010-03-13 18:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-13 19:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-14  2:38         ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-14  2:50           ` Christoph
2010-03-14  3:07             ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-14 17:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-17  0:29               ` Christoph
2010-03-17  4:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-17 12:44                   ` Jason Rumney

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