From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BZR and the bootstrap Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:20:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4C5D8EB2.7090601@alice.it> <83zkwwv6k6.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4nzh8tq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281432078 28924 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2010 09:21:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 10 11:21:16 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oil1I-0001Ub-3F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:21:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53409 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oil1G-00017I-Qm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44470 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oil15-00016f-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:21:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oil12-0007QC-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:21:01 -0400 Original-Received: from impaqm3.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.3]:54110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oil12-0007Pn-Du for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 05:21:00 -0400 Original-Received: from IMPmailhost5.adm.correo ([10.20.102.126]) by IMPaqm3.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id sYDC1e00k2jdgqJ3PZLypT; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:20:58 +0200 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([83.40.4.203]) by IMPmailhost5.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id sZLx1e00T4NokFF1lZLycV; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:20:58 +0200 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-TE-authinfo: authemail="monnier$movistar.es" |auth_email="monnier@movistar.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitnetc01" Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B853066138; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:20:57 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:32:21 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128537 Archived-At: > I think just turning off VC-facility while building is good. > Are there any merit in having it while building? I don't think VC brings any benefits while building Emacs, indeed. OTOH, if it needs to be turned off in this case, maybe it needs to be turned off in other cases. IOW, I'd rather try and make sure VC "never" needs to be turned off, or only in cases where the user really has an odd config that justifies such a measure. E.g. we could change VC so it figures out which backend is in use (etc...) more lazily. Stefan