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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Remote display-time-mail-file
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:00:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvpqwbbgap.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83sk18yrj6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 17 Sep 2010 23:43:57 +0200")

> Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this can help.  For
> starters, time.el needs Tramp to check the remote every time, so the
> cache just gets in the way.

But each use from time.el might end up calling some internal Tramp
functions several times, so the cache may still speed things up.

> For other use-cases, I wonder how can the cache validity be limited in
> terms of time.  Files are modified by programs that access them, not
> because some amount of time has passed.

Indeed, but short of using some inotify-like thingy, Emacs has no way to
know when a file is modified by some other program, so the best it can
do is to say that it will be out of sync at worst up to N seconds.

> How will a Lisp program that accesses remote files know which number
> of seconds to set in this variable?  What am I missing?

In general, there is no good answer.  But clearly, your time.el case
will want to set this limit to just below to refresh rate.


        Stefan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-18  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-16 18:38 Remote display-time-mail-file Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-16 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-16 21:01   ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-17 11:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-17 13:11       ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-17 15:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-09-17 20:26           ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-17 20:59             ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-17 21:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18  6:47                 ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-18  9:00                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-09-18  9:06                   ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-18  9:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-18 10:49                     ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-30 13:07                     ` Michael Albinus
2010-09-30 13:29                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-30 14:01                         ` Michael Albinus

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