From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12721: 24.2; package-installed-p behavior on emacs startup Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:05:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1351217162 5420 80.91.229.3 (26 Oct 2012 02:06:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12721-done@debbugs.gnu.org, kostafey@gmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 26 04:06:09 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZJH-0007ai-Hq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:06:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36043 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZJ9-0003Bs-NT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:05:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZJ7-0003Bh-DK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:05:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZJ6-0005Zh-FV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:05:57 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZJ6-0005Zd-C0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:05:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZL8-0008MB-8u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12721 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 12721-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D12721.135121728032116 (code D ref 12721); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 02:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12721-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2012 02:08:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33964 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZL6-0008Lx-Eg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:08:00 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:14006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TRZL5-0008Lq-BS for 12721-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:07:59 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu0/O+LFW/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA2IQAW6CY0mgx4DozOBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="202890440" Original-Received: from 206-248-177-86.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.177.86]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 25 Oct 2012 22:05:52 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9743559347; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:05:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:33:39 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66069 Archived-At: > Why make package-installed-p something different from featurep? `featurep' typically indicates if a particular file has been loaded, whereas `package-installed-p' indicates whether the package is available (e.g. can be loaded). Stefan