From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: The next releases Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:09:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: <625A3C9C-ACF2-42A0-B4E8-8ABDDA060131@pacbell.net> <87ob4k3lny.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387476606 9176 80.91.229.3 (19 Dec 2013 18:10:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 18:10:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 19 19:10:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vti30-0003ad-1e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:10:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45657 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vti2z-0008H7-Io for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36697) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vti2q-0008Cp-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:10:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vti2g-0007mn-49 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:10:00 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:53692) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vti2f-0007mj-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:09:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.DIT.UMontreal.CA (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rBJI9lSj021385; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:09:48 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F1B97AE6B6; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:09:46 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2013 12:12:54 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4797=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4797> : inlines <336> : streams <1093438> : uri <1629184> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166617 Archived-At: > (A 2 year-old archived bug about Mac keyboards isn't the best place for > this discussion, but I'm not going to bother to move it.) Oops, indeed, thanks for staying alert. >> I wanted to bring this up to 2 releases per year, but noone had the >> energy to take care of the release management > That's not how I recall it. IIRC, you wanted to freeze 24.4 ~ six weeks > after 24.3 was released. This would have left very little time for > people who had been concentrating on the release to develop any new > features. I might indeed be looking at the past through those funny lenses. >> BTW: since we're about to freeze and start a new pretest phase, we're >> looking for a volunteer to take care of rolling the pretests. > Oh, are you? Very much so, yes. > I would have been happy to do it again. But I see Chong Yidong is > back (yay!), so if he wants to do it; or if someone else wants to have > a go, it's fine by me. Not sure if Yidong is volunteering, but in any case I'm very happy to see him back as well. But to tell you the truth, I'd welcome newer blood to roll the pretests. >> Also, we'd welcome some help to update the manuals (most urgently, to >> integrate all the changes mentioned in NEWS into the manuals). > That, of course, is the hard part. Traditionally this large burden has > fallen on a tiny number of people. If suddenly lots of people are going > to start doing this, of course you can crank out more frequent releases. I wish I knew the magic recipe to get people working on it. Stefan