From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Generating ChangeLog files. Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:13:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140102095347.6834E381D0C@snark.thyrsus.com> <8761q1ljny.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhyxqztz.fsf@gmx.de> <10213981.FjEGGXvRcv@descartes> <83a9fdxtkc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388780011 26313 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2014 20:13:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 20:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel , =?windows-1252?Q?R=FCdiger?= Sonderfeld , Michael Albinus , Bozhidar Batsov , Thierry Volpiatto , Eli Zaretskii To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 03 21:13:36 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzB7a-0002Xq-JY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 21:13:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51626 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzB7a-0004Fj-3w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzB7P-0004At-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:13:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzB7I-0000qZ-Fx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:13:19 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:5401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzB7A-0000oX-BI; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:13:04 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFG4rwsm/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="43879293" Original-Received: from 184-175-11-38.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.11.38]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 03 Jan 2014 15:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9111760133; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:13:03 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Fri, 3 Jan 2014 19:41:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167222 Archived-At: >> As it stands now - it's mostly a duplication of the commit log, so >> I rarely refer to it. It is a duplication, and that's on purpose. The purpose being to eventually be able to auto-generate the ChangeLog. > ChangeLogs are easier to access and search, and they have better > information (mistakes can be corrected). I rarely refer to the commit > log, other than the one-liners of "bzr log --line" to quickly locate a > recent commit, and these are less than helpful because many people > does not really adds a summary. I stand on the other side: the only reason I ever look at the ChangeLog files is because "bzr log" is so damn slow. But even with this slowness, I usually use "bzr log" (or rather vc-print-log), because I can then easily get the corresponding diff. Stefan