From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:20:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87383xk4ia.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> <87d22zi69k.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> <87a8xtoq3a.fsf@gmail.com> <87sibkemtw.fsf@gmail.com> <87618gem24.fsf@gmail.com> <85tww0w9nm.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <93070d16-c58a-4972-96b5-8fafb81cbd9a@default> <85h9s0w44i.fsf@iznogoud.viz> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1430270480 12210 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2015 01:21:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Oleh Krehel , Drew Adams , emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 29 03:21:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YnGgB-0005Ac-HM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 03:20:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnGgA-0002Mw-Pz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:20:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47745) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnGg6-0002Mg-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:20:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnGg3-0002pY-BY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:20:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:15049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnGg3-0002pH-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:20:39 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRMCqjW/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYxkCQECAQKDPgODcASjY4RY X-IPAS-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRMCqjW/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYxkCQECAQKDPgODcASjY4RY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.11,557,1422939600"; d="scan'208";a="117733485" Original-Received: from 76-10-168-214.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.168.214]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 28 Apr 2015 21:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 553414650; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:20:38 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Artur Malabarba's message of "Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:52:52 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185989 Archived-At: > I wouldn't oppose having `describe-variable' add a short sentence in > the same place where it says things like "becomes buffer local" or "is > risky". The sentence could be as short as: > > this variable has a `custom-set' property; > > perhaps followed by something else such as > > so setting it directly might not have any effect > > But I don't think printing the entire custom-set property is desirable. Agreed, Stefan