From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tests, Emacs-25 and Conditional Features Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:54:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k2l2zgre.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h9g6xzrb.fsf@gmx.de> <87shzpxvfv.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83y49f94kt.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458316534 13668 80.91.229.3 (18 Mar 2016 15:55:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 18 16:55:27 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1agwkF-0007Sh-89 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:55:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44503 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1agwkE-0000Ck-JJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1agwjx-0000A0-Ko for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1agwjr-00044y-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:7197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1agwjo-00044b-3i; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:54:56 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0A2FgA731xV/xSQs2tcgxCEAoVVwwsEAgKBPDwRAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJC6ICQjPIwEBAQEGAgEfizqFBQeELQW1BCOEFCKCeAEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0A2FgA731xV/xSQs2tcgxCEAoVVwwsEAgKBPDwRAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNJC6ICQjPIwEBAQEGAgEfizqFBQeELQW1BCOEFCKCeAEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="196672080" Original-Received: from 107-179-144-20.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([107.179.144.20]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 18 Mar 2016 11:54:55 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0A7EF5FE67; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:54:55 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83y49f94kt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:41:06 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201829 Archived-At: > That's one possibility, but it isn't the only one. Some of the > features in system-configuration-options are detected automatically, > so the user might not always be aware that a feature she assumed she > has failed to auto-detect and is disabled. Well, we need some concrete data from which we can guess what the user might assume. `system-configuration-options' is one of them, but indeed it doesn't cover all cases. > Maybe a test that produced a report for which features are actually > available and working would be a possible solution. Not sure what you're thinking of. But maybe we could stash the summary we emit at the end of ./configure and use that additionally to `system-configuration-options'. Stefan