From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
20484@debbugs.gnu.org, 20202@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs'
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 18:20:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvpou1rrsf.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egahtcrt.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Thu, 07 Apr 2016 20:55:02 +0100")
> So, bash has a command line option to achieve the same thing as EMACS=t.
or the code can be changed to use $INSIDE_EMACS
or the user could tell Emacs to set EMACS=t
or the user could upgrade to the (upcoming) next release of Bash.
4 options for Bash, one of them will actually become the default in the
future. So Bash is not a big problem here.
> I've checked tcsh and as far as I can tell, here, there is no clear
> solution. EMACS=t is used, and it's deep in the init code. In my hands,
> directory tracking in tcsh does not work in ansi-term either way.
So, does anything break if we don't have EMACS=t?
It sounds like it's a non-issue.
> Zsh does not, AFAICT, use EMACS=t (it's hard to be sure searching
> through the code, since most instances of "emacs" refer to zsh's
> emulation of Emacs). In fact, though, as the FAQ entry you found shows,
> zsh actually does this...
>
> /* unset zle if using zsh under emacs */
> if (!strcmp(term, "emacs"))
> opts[USEZLE] = 0;
>
> which, according to the faq is behaviour from < Emacs-19.29.
Indeed, this code has been useless for many years already since Emacs
doesn't set $TERM to "emacs" any more.
> So, zsh users already explicitly tell their zsh what to do.
So we don't have any evidence that removing EMACS=t will have any effect
on Zsh users either.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-07 22:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-05 11:05 Considered Harmful 73d213: "Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs" Phillip Lord
2016-04-05 16:01 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-05 16:38 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-05 20:42 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-05 22:08 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-06 0:25 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-06 17:53 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 1:05 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 7:18 ` Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 14:57 ` bug#20202: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 7:35 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 15:01 ` bug#20202: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 15:18 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 15:25 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 16:01 ` Glenn Morris
2016-04-07 16:07 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 16:26 ` bug#20484: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 19:55 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-04-08 7:05 ` bug#20484: " Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 13:09 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 20:50 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-08 21:20 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 7:03 ` bug#20484: " Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 7:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-08 13:12 ` bug#20484: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 21:42 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 16:49 ` bug#20202: " Stefan Monnier
2016-04-08 18:12 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-07 16:59 ` bug#20202: " Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-07 18:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-07 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-07 22:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-08 7:00 ` bug#20202: " Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 15:32 ` Glenn Morris
2016-04-08 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 23:36 ` bug#20484: 25.0.50; Directory tracking in ansi-term broken Jacob Oursland
2015-05-02 2:17 ` Glenn Morris
2015-05-02 2:43 ` Glenn Morris
2015-05-02 19:33 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-03 5:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-03 6:15 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-03 16:29 ` Richard Stallman
2015-05-03 17:36 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-04 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-04 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-05-03 17:57 ` Glenn Morris
2015-05-03 19:09 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-04 2:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 22:15 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-08 18:47 ` bug#20484: Bash 4.4-rc1 incompatibility with future Emacs $EMACS Paul Eggert
2016-04-09 2:24 ` bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Glenn Morris
2016-04-09 8:43 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-09 13:43 ` bug#20202: " Stefan Monnier
2016-04-09 21:56 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-09 23:40 ` bug#20202: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-10 0:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-10 3:30 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-10 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-11 5:50 ` bug#20202: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-10 8:26 ` bug#20484: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-11 12:32 ` bug#20484: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 8:25 ` Phillip Lord
2015-03-25 21:44 ` bug#20202: 24.3; Comint mode sets a bad $EMACS Eli Barzilay
2015-03-26 0:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-28 15:27 ` Eli Barzilay
2015-04-09 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-10 12:18 ` bug#20202: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Markus Triska
2016-04-11 12:38 ` Phillip Lord
2018-05-24 20:46 ` bug#20202: EMACS=t Joy and Happiness Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 7:13 ` bug#20202: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Michael Albinus
2016-04-10 8:51 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 9:31 ` Michael Albinus
2016-04-08 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-08 17:12 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-08 18:14 ` bug#20202: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 17:47 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 13:15 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 15:45 ` bug#20202: " Glenn Morris
2016-04-08 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-07 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-07 15:21 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
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