From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: use-package
Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 18:28:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvpot2eq9l.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAFyQvY0iFrcXm_cpcZHjimM8Apm_3eEYCvydW1V3G_ByNYy30g@mail.gmail.com
> use-package speeds up startup times by delaying the loading the packages
> that you can afford to..
In my point of view, the job that use-package does is only useful when
the corresponding package is poorly setup to start with.
IOW, if use-package is helpful, usually it indicates a shortcoming in
the package or in the way the package is installed.
> for example, you do not need to load org-mode until you are in
> a buffer with org-mode major mode or you call one of the commands like
> org-agenda that autoloads org-mode.
That's right. But that's already the case without doing any config at
all (because org-mode is setup properly to start with), so you shouldn't
need use-package for that.
I see use-package as having 2 benefits:
- work around package shortcomings as described above.
- help the user structure his .emacs configuration.
I'd like to see those two parts separated, FWIW.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-03 22:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-02 17:07 use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-02 18:47 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-03 10:47 ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-03 14:01 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-03 22:28 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-05-04 3:33 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-04 12:09 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-04 16:22 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-04 16:44 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-05 13:34 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-05 14:00 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-05 15:56 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-05 16:12 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-10 9:20 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-10 9:18 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-11 11:42 ` use-package Kaushal Modi
2016-05-12 21:04 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-13 11:56 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-14 22:27 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-15 3:22 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-13 15:38 ` use-package Drew Adams
2016-05-16 15:16 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-16 16:49 ` use-package Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.2761.1463153947.7477.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-05-14 7:37 ` use-package Rusi
2016-05-10 9:13 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-05 9:51 ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-05 13:38 ` use-package Phillip Lord
2016-05-03 22:21 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
2016-05-05 10:15 ` use-package Uwe Brauer
2016-05-05 23:41 ` use-package Stefan Monnier
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