From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Path for system-wide .eln files Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:51:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83o8qocd32.fsf@gnu.org> <838shrdb1c.fsf@gnu.org> <837dxbd93b.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8062"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Ulrich Mueller , Paul Eggert , Eli Zaretskii , Andrea Corallo To: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 30 23:51:53 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kCVEu-0001zY-HY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:51:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47294 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kCVEt-0007mt-EP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:51:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56172) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kCVEN-0007Nl-7F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:51:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:48766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kCVEK-0002xF-6w; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:51:17 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C92CC4407F9; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 50988440096; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:51:13 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1598824273; bh=/n/p8hNm0IIEMXk7WtNFTavDIauqZb9JubTcKyUbT+g=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=f0B5kztU85JUOoGOc0IR2JlmwXnIcuUmU47fZgmGe0gUMTrboT5G/VeVT7++J/CyJ K3wRYLXBFew0eL6T7eagnAgKV0Gnk+8i47EA/M0RkAXCBM1KK7FZ654EJC/HkKykZ8 OeVKjEAJiD2rT+n/2yanI6IVWGAJ0ruZ2xlLlnwSk0xTaAxUZFfWYaSneuF9K8ki2a moDvbvHH0JZ56Xj70czbvQJtuAFbA+Lne0t0as9lnECyf49NdIqws/NShLzPquCYqb jY5B1wfOp57ST01cKEk2uhS/ITpi/WhsA0T2A8a/r6NOnIyl3nCXc9/B41PYWOnKWl ixpDY2bH6oNZA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08C951205FF; Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:51:12 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo via's message of "Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:50:39 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/30 17:51:15 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254417 Archived-At: > As for point 1 if this folder does not classify as cache because read > only, should be easy to go for something more appropriate. Something as > simple as "sys-eln" would work? (I'm not good with names sorry) No need for `sys` in that name, AFAICT: the rest of the name makes it clear that it belongs to the Emacs installation or to the system but not to the user. > For point 2: eln are opened with dlopen so they are technically shared > libraries. They need to be loaded with some special treatment and > cannot be used as simple shareds by C programs tho. > > To me this fits decently in the definition for /usr/libexec from your > link: AFAICT, `/usr/libexec` contains executables, not shared libraries. They're just executables that are not supposed to be in $PATH. So I think `/usr/lib` is more appropriate. Stefan