From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:55:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87lf633wc3.fsf@zoho.eu> <87czrcdysr.fsf@zoho.eu> <8735s7pzps.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tuknoj7z.fsf@zoho.eu> <87h7gnwnzf.fsf@zoho.eu> <87eebruy60.fsf@zoho.eu> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16534"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:l5yb3msjn8JX0vI2rJr2U6B5Yms= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 22 00:55:56 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6L88-00046s-CH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 00:55:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53000 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6L87-0002WO-3m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6L7b-0002WD-Pg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:55:23 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:60266) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6L7a-0006qx-0h for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2021 18:55:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6L7Y-0003Js-4A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 00:55:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131983 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-07-21 23:58:31] wrote: > Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: >>> China's opinion is irrelevant and full of shit. >> Your prejudice doesn't change the fact that a significant >> (and arguably an increasing) amount of research is done >> in Chinese. > I believe you, but how do you know that? Only occasional anectodal "evidence", sorry. But for example https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01076-x refers to a major increase in funding in China, and while AFAIK top research from China still aims to publish in English venues (which are still more prestigious and give more exposure), I expect a large fraction of that research is only published in Chinese (after all, the Chinese speaking audience is already fairly large ;-) Stefan PS: While the above talks about science in general, my own experience is limited to computer science, where English is arguably even more entrenched than in other fields.