From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC-Dired now lists unregistered files, marked with "?"... Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:28:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20071227162028.E8C1C830BC9@snark.thyrsus.com> <200712271931.lBRJVYn7017640@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <20071228102634.GD23009@thyrsus.com> <20071229183427.GB23998@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199240940 11791 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2008 02:29:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 02:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, dann@ics.uci.edu, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 02 03:29:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J9tM7-0002KX-Ps for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:29:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tLl-00085F-NN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:28:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tLi-000848-DR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:28:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tLh-00083t-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:28:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9tLh-00083q-Gp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:28:53 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J9tLd-0007sP-Ri; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:28:49 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAH+FekfO+IaddGdsb2JhbACQEQEwlXo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,231,1196658000"; d="scan'208";a="12171747" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 01 Jan 2008 21:28:49 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.134.157]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id IDE42149; Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:28:49 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0DB5A84AE; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 21:28:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20071229183427.GB23998@thyrsus.com> (Eric S. Raymond's message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:34:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85840 Archived-At: >> PCL-CVS has never offered such an option and nobody has ever asked >> for it. Just show those files and let the user place them in .fooignore >> if they don't want to see them. >> >> That sounds rather inconvenient, I must say, if you often look at >> new directories. > I agree. It's a non-solution. Better to have three verbosity levels -- > terse, terse + unregistered, and everything. PCL-CVS moved away from "levels" and I think it users found it to be an improvement. Basically, you just have the default (which is equivalent to what you call "terse+unregistered") and then you have commands to affect the current display to: - place a given file in the .fooignore list (thus bringing you closer to just "terse" but this will also work for all other frontends rather than only VC and only in terse mode). - expand a subdir to show all its files and their status (i.e. "everything" but with the advantage it can apply to a subdir rather than being an all-or-nothing choice (which quickly becomes a non-choice when your tree has thousands of files)). - add a file (with its status) to the display (even if the file doesn't exist, so you can "cvs diff -rR1 -rR2 foo" even if "foo" was removed between version R2 and the working revision). -- Stefan