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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: joakim@verona.se
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Neat features in Eclipse editor
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:53:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvod956jng.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m34pax4vhr.fsf@verona.se> (joakim@verona.se's message of "Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:53:20 +0100")

> The Emacs ECB package is designed to do all of this in Emacs. It has been
> discussed for inclusion. It uses lots and lots of advice to achive the
> sub-frame feature. Recently I did a small review of the code to see if
> it would be possible for me to remove the advice, by providing suitable
> hooks in Emacs. It did not apear immediately obvious how to do this.

There are a few packages that like to take control of a frame and
display various windows inside.  Gnus and gdb-ui come to mind.

Similarly, users (and commands by default) often like to control the
frame as a whole, without much regard for the various windows already
present, assuming that minor changes aren't important as long as the
user can adjust them later.

ECB's effort in this is very valuable.  It would be good to provide some
kind of functionality to make ECB's task easier and to make it possible
for users to give a sub-part of a frame to Gnus.

I'm not sure if that should be provided via a new concept of "subframe",
or by making it possible to collocate several frames together (within
the same GUI window).

Maybe a lightweight approach would be to be able to tag each and every
window with a "subframe" property, such that a "subframe" is simply the
set of windows with the same "subframe" value.

The only problem with all of that, is the added complexity.  E.g. Are we
going to have a family of functions FOO-BAR-other-subframe?


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-22 21:45 Neat features in Eclipse editor Richard Stallman
2008-03-22 21:56 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-22 21:36   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-22 23:09   ` Leo
2008-03-23 14:18     ` William Xu
2008-03-23  2:27   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-23  9:53     ` joakim
2008-03-23 10:50       ` martin rudalics
2008-03-23 10:54       ` martin rudalics
2008-03-23 19:35         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-03-23 19:39           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-23 21:06             ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-03-23 21:42               ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-23 19:49           ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25  8:11           ` dtm
2008-03-24  0:53       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-03-24  0:54       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 19:02         ` joakim
2008-03-25  1:06           ` Bastien
2008-03-25 18:31             ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 19:19               ` Rajappa Iyer
2008-03-26  1:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-26  4:46                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25  1:50           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-18 13:25             ` joakim
2008-04-19  2:23               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24  0:53   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 18:47     ` paul r
2008-03-25  1:50       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25  3:53         ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Stefan Monnier
2008-03-25 10:54           ` Window configuration UI Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 18:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-26  4:47           ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Richard Stallman
2008-03-26  9:41             ` Window configuration UI Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-26 22:26               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27  2:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 19:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-29 16:27                   ` Michael Sperber
2008-03-31  2:41           ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Nick Roberts
2008-03-31 16:25             ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-01  3:00               ` Window configuration UI Stefan Monnier
2008-04-01 21:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 10:08         ` Neat features in Eclipse editor paul r
2008-03-25 10:55           ` David Reitter
2008-03-25 11:35             ` paul r
2008-03-25 21:00               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 22:10                 ` paul r
2008-03-26  1:50                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-03-26 22:26                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 21:01           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 21:16             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 23:17               ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-26  2:23               ` Evans Winner
2008-03-26  7:09               ` Jan Djärv
2008-03-26  7:18                 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-26 22:25               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-26 22:38                 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-26 22:57                   ` paul r
2008-03-26 23:20                     ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-27  6:57                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27  0:22                     ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-27  0:17                   ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-27 19:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27 20:18                     ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-27  0:18                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25  0:48   ` Bastien
2008-03-24  1:51 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-24 12:29   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 18:24     ` joakim
2008-03-25  1:50       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-06 20:52 ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Juri Linkov
2008-04-06 23:07   ` Tab bar David Koppelman
2008-04-06 23:48     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07  0:05       ` David Koppelman
2008-04-07  0:32         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 14:59           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:27             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 15:35               ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-08 15:50                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08 16:58                   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-09 10:33                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09 23:27                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 14:59       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 15:33         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-07 23:31           ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08  0:21             ` Drew Adams
2008-04-08  2:06             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-08 22:11               ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  2:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-09  8:45                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:34                     ` Paul R
2008-04-09 14:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-08 13:58           ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-04-08 14:21             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 15:55               ` Paul R
2008-04-08 16:04                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-08 16:24                   ` Paul R
2008-04-08 16:25                   ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-04-08 20:10                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 21:16                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-08 21:47                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-09  2:50                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-09  8:50                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  7:55                           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-09 10:34                           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09 14:59                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 22:09                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  8:12                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-09  8:52                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 16:50                 ` Ehud Karni
2008-04-07 16:09         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-07 16:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-07 23:35             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 15:36             ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09  1:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-09 10:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:28         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07  1:37   ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Drew Adams
2008-04-07 14:59     ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 16:09       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-07 23:35         ` Mathias Dahl
2008-04-07 23:33     ` Tab bar Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 15:00   ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:59   ` Tab bar David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-08 22:06     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  1:07       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-09  8:48         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:24           ` David Kastrup
2008-04-09 23:28             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-10  6:11               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10  7:31                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-10  7:44                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-10  8:08                   ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10 15:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-10 23:11                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-12  0:10                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09  9:45           ` Paul R
2008-04-09 23:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-10  8:09               ` Paul R
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-28  1:49 Neat features in Eclipse editor Josh Gilbert
2008-03-28 23:54 ` Richard Stallman

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