From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3001: 23.0.92; doc for regexp construct (?: Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:57:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <006801c9bd95$41e3e180$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 3001@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239809206 9353 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2009 15:26:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3001@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 15 17:28:02 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lu71q-000650-QN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:27:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51023 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lu70R-0008H9-VX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lu6y0-00053r-6x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:24:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lu6xv-0004yV-AC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33252 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lu6xu-0004xz-9I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:23:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:57733) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lu6xt-0002nX-Hv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:23:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3FFNoWE013866; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:23:51 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3FF57of009264; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:05:07 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:05:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3001 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3001-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3001.12398074326869 (code B ref 3001); Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:05:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3001) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Apr 2009 14:57:12 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (pruche.dit.umontreal.ca [132.204.246.22]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3FEv36K006863 for <3001@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:57:05 -0700 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n3FEv3AH014989; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 511863C4E3; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:57:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <006801c9bd95$41e3e180$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:41:48 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3253=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:23:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27201 Archived-At: > But at least some explanation of the use of the word "shy" is in > order, if only for mnemonic purposes. What were you thinking? ;-) I really don't know what I was thinking, sorry, nor what "they" were thinking. I could guess at an rationalisation; e.g. "yo' mama's so shy she doesn't even dare to get a number". > (Perhaps it is translated from some other language, where it has more > than one meaning?) My attempt of humor is indeed translated from an unknown language where it sounds even less funny. > More importantly, this construct does not appear to be indexed in the > manual. It should be indexed under "(: in regexp", as well as under > "regexp non-capturing group" and "regexp unnumbered group" - and of > course "regexp shy group", if that term is kept. It is indexed under "shy group, in regexp". I don't know if chars like "(?:" can be used in a Texinfo index without first sacrificing a few virgins. I'm not sure if it's likely that someone will look for "non-capturing" or "unnumbered" groups (i.e. would someone look for the syntax to use for that feature, rather than look for the feature associated to that syntax?). Stefan