From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4654: 23.1; Elisp manual doc of abbreviate-file-name Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:47:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2C5117E03B57417289F8B3E16B1B8B61@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 4654@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1254895666 15916 80.91.229.12 (7 Oct 2009 06:07:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4654@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 07 08:07:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MvPgR-0001Fr-1V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:07:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56312 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPgP-0007xq-J6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPgE-0007wB-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPg8-0007sn-Fb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53017 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MvPg7-0007sL-Q8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:58920) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MvPg7-0000BZ-4a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n97679Jh006506; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:07:09 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n975t73e003403; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:55:07 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:55:07 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:55:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4654 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4654-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4654.12548944572247 (code B ref 4654); Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:55:07 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4654) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Oct 2009 05:47:37 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n975lZTh002243 for <4654@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:47:36 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlMFAPfHy0pMCqug/2dsb2JhbACBUdMShCoEhzQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,517,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="47219969" Original-Received: from 76-10-171-160.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.171.160]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 07 Oct 2009 01:47:30 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D73ADB4190; Wed, 7 Oct 2009 01:47:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <2C5117E03B57417289F8B3E16B1B8B61@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:12:51 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:07:16 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31753 Archived-At: > ~/foo/ tells you that foo is directly under the home directory. Actually, you can see right there: "~/foo" is longer than "/foo", so it would be wrong for abbreviate-file-name to do such a replacement, since it wouldn't abbreviate. > it's not a toss-up, since the _purpose_ of the function is to use ~. No it's not. The purpose is to abbreviate, i.e. make shorter. > Anyway, this bug report is about the doc - please clear that up. Patch welcome. I myself have no idea what wording would please you better, and the current wording is crystal clear to my mind. Stefan