From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs for new users Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <4p4rt6-2ne.ln1@lesharris.com> <87vdh19cls.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259014013 26037 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2009 22:06:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Les Harris , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 23 23:06:45 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NCh3U-0007Wc-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:06:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42720 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NCh3U-0002KN-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:06:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NCgu6-0001f1-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:57:02 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NCgu1-0001ZN-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33775 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NCgu1-0001ZC-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:56:57 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:49806) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NCgu0-0004vx-Q4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:56:57 -0500 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nANLugiB005871; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:56:42 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BAF1A3A365; Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:56:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:16:35 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3412=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117639 Archived-At: > Putting cua-mode on the menus was a good step towards making it easier > for newcommers. Could we perhaps also apply my patches that shows C-c, > C-x etc on the edit menu when cua-mode is on? FWIW I doubt it'd be very useful: the whole point of using CUA is so that users can use the bindings they already know. The key here being "they already know", so placing those bindings in the menu is not necessary. Stefan PS: I could even construe the current behavior as a feature to "teach them the real bindings instead", although I think it's more of an accident than anything.