From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Relationship between 23.1.90 pretest and 23.2 pretest?
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:05:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvocm63hj0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87skbialcq.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:40:21 -0500")
>> We've just released a pretest. In some places, it is referred to as the
>> "23.2 pretest" and in other places as "the 23.1.90" pretest.
>>
>> These are the same thing right? If not, what's their relationship? (I
>> looked for, but couldn't find, a document about our release processes.)
> The pretests leading up to Emacs 23.2 are 23.1.90, 23.1.91, 23.1.92,
> etc.
Yes, in my mind "the pretest" is not a product but a process. So the
"pretest for Emacs-23.2" includes releasing a bunch of versions, which
we traditionally name 23.1.9x (which can grow to 23.1.99x or to 23.1.10x
depending on who's in charge at the time we move past 23.1.99).
If I see "the 23.2 pretest code", that would usually mean "whichever
version was last distributed during the pretest".
A pretest version such as 23.1.93 becomes immediately obsolete the
moment 23.1.94 is cut. Actually, not just obsolete: any mention (let
alone use) of 23.1.93 after 23.1.94 has been released is of very bad
taste and will be duly noted by Santa.
>> And the reason I'm asking, of course, is to check that we're ready to
>> finally do the bzr switchover. The end of [2] implies that it is now
>> time to do that, but I wanted to make sure before starting the thread.
> Yes, I am in favor of moving forward on the bzr switchover.
Yes, now is a good time for it. The only problems I can think of are:
- I'm leaving tomorrow for the country of Borges (and Maradona), so
until January I will be less available.
- loggerhead doesn't seem to be working any more on Savannah.
- the commit-diff email system is not yet working, and I just learned
that Savannah has something implemented for it, so it would make a lot
of sense to try and use that.
Personally I'm not convinced those should stop us from switching now
since I expect the Xmas season to be a good "quiet" time for the switch:
1- declare a 100% freeze on any commits.
2- ask Andreas to perform one last conversion.
3- ask the Savannah admins to make the CVS repository read-only.
4- when the conversion is done and looks good: declare victory.
5- start rebuilding the country: get Loggerhead working, get
commit-diffs emails working, get bzr+ssh working, ...
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-10 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-10 14:31 Relationship between 23.1.90 pretest and 23.2 pretest? Karl Fogel
2009-12-10 15:40 ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-10 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2009-12-10 23:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-11 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-11 16:57 ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-12 4:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-12 20:52 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-12 20:56 ` Chong Yidong
2009-12-12 21:09 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-13 0:36 ` Jan Djärv
2009-12-14 0:10 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-15 22:59 ` Bazaar switchover: waiting for admins, how to speed it? Karl Fogel
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