From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7291: 24.0.50; `non-essential' is incomprehensible Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:36:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9499566E643B466092A98013C6826011@us.oracle.com> <3457CB74869B424BB0DB5A41C034AED7@us.oracle.com> <7908A4E9737248F79A9D74B584DAEAC9@us.oracle.com> <814E70A041AB4DC2A29E614DB19D2247@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1288374202 14195 80.91.229.12 (29 Oct 2010 17:43:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 7291@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 29 19:43:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PBsz0-0002sn-0c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:43:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41480 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PBsyz-0005bR-F1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:43:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49683 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PBsys-0005b2-CE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:43:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PBsyr-0002aU-6g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:43:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PBsyr-0002aG-4u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:43:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PBso7-0005E8-Fi; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:32:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:32:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7291 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 7291-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7291.128837352320089 (code B ref 7291); Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:32:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 7291) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2010 17:32:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PBso5-0005Dx-NI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PBso3-0005Dq-O6 for 7291@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:32:00 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwKAGKjykzO+Krc/2dsb2JhbACgVn1yv0OFSASSKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.58,260,1286164800"; d="scan'208";a="81051972" Original-Received: from 206-248-170-220.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.170.220]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 29 Oct 2010 13:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9FE36660F5; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:36:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <814E70A041AB4DC2A29E614DB19D2247@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:47:26 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:32:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:41239 Archived-At: Other than the "non-nil" part on the first line, I still don't know what's ambiguous about the rest of the current docstring. Your suggested wording sounds largely incomprehensible to me, so while it may be better for some, it's clearly not good enough to replace the current wording. > Both parts of the story need to be presented clearly: (1) the code > such as Tramp that conditionally disturbs the user (depending on the > var value) and (2) the code such as Icomplete that binds the var > during an operation that it does not want interrupted. It's not that icomplete doesn't want an operation to be interrupted, it's that it doesn't want this operation to disturb the user. Stefan