From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:32:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385757160 30400 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2013 20:32:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 29 21:32:44 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VmUjy-0004ln-TN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:32:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49333 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmUjy-0000aI-Ff for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:32:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41621) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmUjn-0000PE-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:32:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmUjg-0001ZZ-Ac for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:32:31 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:59297) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VmUjg-0001ZQ-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:32:24 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KEh/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFHO+KEh/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOIYZwZgV6DFQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="40715741" Original-Received: from 206-248-161-33.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.161.33]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 29 Nov 2013 15:32:23 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 446AE60EFA; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:32:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Tom's message of "Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:54:56 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165898 Archived-At: > Is there a generic elisp way to list packages shipped with emacs > without listing them explicitly? There's no easy and reliable way, but I don't think we need that. > I guess checking if they are actually enabled is easier. If the > package is loaded then we can say it's enabled. Though it's > possible a package is loaded without being enabled, it may not > be typical, so we can ignore that. I think the contents of `features' is all we need. Stefan