From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:21:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d25juy8m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423491702 22344 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2015 14:21:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 14:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eller.helmut@gmail.com, Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 09 15:21:41 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YKpDY-0005I0-BK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:21:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33010 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKpDX-0002au-Kj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:21:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44251) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKpDT-0002a8-LW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:21:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKpDP-0006uP-T6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:21:35 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:48263) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKpDL-0006rx-Hr; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t19ELOZj006074; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:21:24 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 385281240; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:21:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87d25juy8m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:21:13 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5212=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5212> : inlines <2053> : streams <1387387> : uri <1850514> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182689 Archived-At: > So yes: you _are_ very much sacrificing the interoperation of GNU > software on the grounds that it would also enable the interoperation > with software that is either unfree or "too free". Whether or not this > is "proposed", it is being done. Very mush so, indeed. The recent thread about a GCC plugin that would export an AST for Emacs's use being a prime example. All this anti-LLVM shenanigans is actually very harmful to Emacs and GCC and only benefits non-GNU software. Stefan