From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Managing environments (Python venv, guix environment, etc.) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 22:36:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y453sy0n.fsf@earth.catern.com> <87r3arripr.fsf@earth.catern.com> <874m7jygot.fsf@earth.catern.com> <83oa5ox21u.fsf@gnu.org> <123d2ae9-b523-5d5b-3bf8-c6e4462270b8@yandex.ru> <87a8h7wihs.fsf@earth.catern.com> <08e690b6-56a0-1182-2560-666e3bffb2ee@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469500655 27350 80.91.229.3 (26 Jul 2016 02:37:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 02:37:35 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 26 04:37:27 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bRsFK-0000Ny-Kd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:37:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37032 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRsFG-0006so-Ki for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 22:37:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40487) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRsEV-0006rJ-1m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 22:36:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRsEQ-000458-2C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 22:36:33 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51272) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRsEP-00044z-RX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 22:36:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bRsEO-0008An-80 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:36:28 +0200 Original-Received: from 76-10-141-164.dsl.teksavvy.com ([76.10.141.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:36:28 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 76-10-141-164.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 04:36:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76-10-141-164.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZOmTclWe0cS6ZNR/W8jROejF0S8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206136 Archived-At: > Like Eli said, this seems unwise. But it hints at a logical problem: if > start-process and friends are simply documented to use exec-path and > process-environment, but use their modified values in some circumstances, > someone trying to debug this could have a big problem. process-file and start-file-process are documented to obey file-name-handlers-alist, so their callers should expect directory-dependent behavior, including potentially not blindly obeying exec-path. Stefan