From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Licence of ts-comint Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:40:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1502621936.3273210.1071832168.58C017A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503571508 13473 195.159.176.226 (24 Aug 2017 10:45:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 10:45:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 24 12:45:04 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkpd7-0002pa-Cr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:44:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47684 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkpdD-0007YA-R1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:44:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkpZR-0004LI-1M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:41:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkpZM-000835-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=37624 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkpZL-000820-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:41:00 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkpZ4-0006wi-Nu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Aug 2017 12:40:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Oroy2Rf+tg3NlYC74TZhaKU6bG0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217754 Archived-At: > You've said that "not copyleft" usually implies "don't say free > software" and "say free software" usually implies "copyleft". Those > two statements are equivalent. Almost. Except that I said "promote not copyleft" usually implies "don't say free software" and "say free software" usually implies "promote copyleft", so the negation is not quite at the right place to make one the contrapositive of the other. > But the converse is not true. There are companies that don't > particularly care about freedom, and don't say "free software", but do > release code under the GNU GPL as part of their business model. Indeed, my statement doesn't intend to cover all cases. Stefan