From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Propagating local variables?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 10:45:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvo9he73q5.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2vabnrzh0.fsf@newartisans.com
> SM> I only mentioned it as a mechanism to share a variable among various
> SM> buffers. We could decide that shell.el obeys a `parent-buffer` variable
> SM> (presumably set by some other package) when non-nil by fetching the
> SM> buffer-local `process-environment' of that buffer.
> There are too many other cases where this is needed. Expecting it to happen
> "by convention" means it won't happen in many cases where it should, simply
> because the idea of referencing a parent buffer was omitted.
Agreed.
Maybe this is remotely related to the idea of major-mode variables.
We could imagine introducing a new notion of "setting", with operations like:
(setting-set NAME VALUE CONTEXT)
(setting-get NAME)
where `setting-get` returns the "nearest" setting of NAME.
CONTEXT could be:
- a window
- a frame
- a major-mode
- a buffer
- a directory
- a file
- a terminal
- ...
and the notion of proximity would impose some ordering between these
different CONTEXT values. Of course, the current-buffer would be
"nearer" than the current frame, but what about the parent of the
current-buffer?
[ This is relevant to your use-case since in some situations we
currently look at frame-parameters to decide how to build subprocess's
environment variables (more specifically for the DISPLAY env-var).
So a process-environment would actually want to be a combination of
the environment specified from the frame and that specified by your
parent's buffer. ]
Of course, like all other proposals it doesn't solve the problem of
making sure this new mechanism is used everywhere.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-17 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-15 19:37 Propagating local variables? John Wiegley
2018-05-16 3:42 ` Roland Winkler
2018-05-16 17:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-16 18:59 ` John Wiegley
2018-05-16 20:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-16 22:46 ` John Wiegley
2018-05-17 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-05-16 21:02 ` Roland Winkler
2018-05-17 3:00 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-17 5:16 ` John Wiegley
2018-05-18 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-18 4:28 ` John Wiegley
2018-05-18 20:15 ` Shea Levy
2018-05-19 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-19 15:09 ` John Shahid
2018-05-20 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-17 12:18 ` Shea Levy
2018-05-17 14:27 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-18 2:33 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-18 3:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-19 12:06 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-05-20 19:09 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-05-19 12:11 ` Philipp Stephani
2018-05-19 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
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